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bp_SFV4 said:
Do you bother with tank grips anymore since going with the Vulturbike tank cover? I noticed with how wide the rear is and with the sharp(er) angle of the rear lines it really catches the inner part of your thigh. I lazily installed my older DP tank grips and my legs don't seem to be in as much contact as they were when installed on the tank without the Vulturbike cover.
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I’m a stompgrip guy, and yeah I use them, next post is a comparison of the 20 mm raised flat seat compared to the 50 mm raised I just got, but you can see how I have the stompgrips on there…I like to wrap them around the sides cause my leg my leg lands on the corner at lean.
 
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Still a lot of downward slope, and in my case I don’t think it’s fixable on this bike for me, because I need the rear of the seat to be high so I can get into a tuck. If I raise the front of the seat while having the back where I need it I won’t have any tank to grip lol

bp you can see how I have the stompgrips placed.

As an aside I ordered both the high profile and low profile MonkeyGripps tank extenders to try, several guys had them at the track last weekend and they look very promising. Will update
 
I was looking for a solution that wraps around the corner. Same thing, that's where my thigh is.
SuperDomestique said:
Hey they sent you my seat ahaha! 😂 3rd times the charm. What is that $900 tied up in Raceseats product. Yikes!
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That dude's dining room table cost more than your bike. I don't think he cares.
 
The screw holes

Mine were off in the exact same way SuperDomestiques were, like literally they were off the same amount in the same way, took a frustrating 10 minutes to get the seat on, but it’s a function of getting the angles right on both holes at the same time.

Very annoying to do but if your patient and keep fiddling with it eventually they click into place, once you get it the 1st time it’s easier after that.

Regardless of the screw hole situation, if the profile is off the profile is off.
 
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bp_SFV4 said:
I was looking for a solution that wraps around the corner. Same thing, that's where my thigh is.

That dude's dining room table cost more than your bike. I don't think he cares.
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That’s one reason I use stompgrips, they stick really well and flex around those corners.

I really like the tech spec stuff but I can’t get them to stay stuck to the tank when I flex them around those corners.

The thinner version Super mentioned sounds promising.
 
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Yeah, I'd think the thick rubber would not be flexible enough. That tank cover has kind of a compound curve that could be tricky. I tried looking for a mild grip tape in which I could run a single, mayby 3" x 13" band around the rear of the tank coverr.

I had to wrestle in my seat a bit but it wasn't worth mentioning since it was easy to resolve. I think the hole placement could be better, but I don't know enough about their process to suggest anything useful. The baseplate of the stock seat is injection molded, so the screw bosses are always in the exact same place.
 
Steven31371 said:
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Still a lot of downward slope, and in my case I don’t think it’s fixable on this bike for me, because I need the rear of the seat to be high so I can get into a tuck. If I raise the front of the seat while having the back where I need it I won’t have any tank to grip lol

bp you can see how I have the stompgrips placed.

As an aside I ordered both the high profile and low profile MonkeyGripps tank extenders to try, several guys had them at the track last weekend and they look very promising. Will update
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That’s the 50 mm? It’s like they did 50 across the whole seat. I mean if that’s what you wanted then that’s what you got. However tapering towards the back would make it less of an angle.

It’s frustrating that they don’t give photos of it mocked up on a bike before the build it. Someone on their end should render the thing in photoshop with all angles and only proceed when that’s signed off.

Again, it’s not like I can’t drill holes. What frustrates me is that THEY, the experts, can’t get it right. That’s seat making 101.

It’s like the guy drilling holes is blindfolded and just goes for it.

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bp_SFV4 said:
Did you ask for that?
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I asked for my money back is what I asked them.

I sent them photoshops of what I wanted and they said that they could do it. They sent photos of the completed seat by itself. I trusted them that they met our agreed upon specs. Hence my surprise when the seat arrived and it wasn’t what we discussed and not being satisfied with it. You’d know the process if you ordered from them…

I find it odd that someone with no skin in the game defends this company so staunchly. I mean if you like getting bent over, by all mean order a seat from them. Me, I have high standards and will only be bent over when my design spec is met.
 
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Jesus you are a knob. I never defended them. At all. I merely asked if you requested a mock up.

They paid you to .... off.
 
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bp_SFV4 said:
Jesus you are a knob. I never defended them. At all. I merely asked if you requested a mock up.

They paid you to .... off.
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Haha! So what exactly have you contributed to this thread again? You’re being an Andy.

I don’t mind ....... off. They can .... off. I’m not impressed with them. And that’s my opinion. And if you disagree, it’s ok. Start your own thread on how they treated you so well and how they met your needs.

I’m just sharing my observations, experiences, and opinion. You could learn something… or not. I don’t care.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
Yeah, I'd think the thick rubber would not be flexible enough. That tank cover has kind of a compound curve that could be tricky. I tried looking for a mild grip tape in which I could run a single, mayby 3" x 13" band around the rear of the tank coverr.

I had to wrestle in my seat a bit but it wasn't worth mentioning since it was easy to resolve. I think the hole placement could be better, but I don't know enough about their process to suggest anything useful. The baseplate of the stock seat is injection molded, so the screw bosses are always in the exact same place.
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I ordered a couple of these tank grips, but haven’t tried them yet. Not sure if it’s what you want, but perhaps it would wrap around the tank cover?
 
bp_SFV4 said:
Yeah, I'd think the thick rubber would not be flexible enough. That tank cover has kind of a compound curve that could be tricky. I tried looking for a mild grip tape in which I could run a single, mayby 3" x 13" band around the rear of the tank coverr.

I had to wrestle in my seat a bit but it wasn't worth mentioning since it was easy to resolve. I think the hole placement could be better, but I don't know enough about their process to suggest anything useful. The baseplate of the stock seat is injection molded, so the screw bosses are always in the exact same place.
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Honestly I think they make them that way on purpose, the tolerances are exactly where they want them. Once you get everything pressed in right and angled right they go right in, it’s just frustrating figuring out the way to do it, but once you do it a few times it gets easier.

And then it makes a very snug press fit, which I think is their intention
 
SuperDomestique said:
That’s the 50 mm? It’s like they did 50 across the whole seat. I mean if that’s what you wanted then that’s what you got. However tapering towards the back would make it less of an angle.

It’s frustrating that they don’t give photos of it mocked up on a bike before the build it. Someone on their end should render the thing in photoshop with all angles and only proceed when that’s signed off.

Again, it’s not like I can’t drill holes. What frustrates me is that THEY, the experts, can’t get it right. That’s seat making 101.

It’s like the guy drilling holes is blindfolded and just goes for it.

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I respectfully disagree about the wholes, I think they are exactly where they want them, when you get everything aligned right and pressed right they go right in, it’s just a pita figuring that out and takes some patience fiddling with it the 1st few times, the tolerances are less than on the stock seat, they are made better, and therefore harder to install.
 
Personally I’m starting to think that the only mod that’s really gunna get the ergos right with the seat and the tank and the windscreens in tuck position etc is to install a 2023 M 1000 RR in my garage 😂😂😂

But then I give up the turning agility and power of my bike.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Haha! So what exactly have you contributed to this thread again? You’re being an Andy.

I don’t mind ....... off. They can .... off. I’m not impressed with them. And that’s my opinion. And if you disagree, it’s ok. Start your own thread on how they treated you so well and how they met your needs.

I’m just sharing my observations, experiences, and opinion. You could learn something… or not. I don’t care.
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He is exactly being like me….. identifying and calling you out for exactly how and what you are…
I expect they will have to put their prices up to factor in for the cocks that don’t know what they want don’t order exactly what they want and can’t fit it when they get get it…., but it’s not their fault!
 
Steven31371 said:
Personally I’m starting to think that the only mod that’s really gunna get the ergos right with the seat and the tank and the windscreens in tuck position etc is to install a 2023 M 1000 RR in my garage 😂😂😂

But then I give up the turning agility and power of my bike.
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Haha! I know some guys who have and have had the S1000RR, and they have mixed opinions regarding the ergonomics. Funnily enough one of the shorter guys thought the seat was too low, and wanted to be more on top of the bike. He much preferred the seat and tank on my V4. Others seem to like the "in the bike” ethos of the BMW.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Haha! So what exactly have you contributed to this thread again? You’re being an Andy.

I don’t mind ....... off. They can .... off. I’m not impressed with them. And that’s my opinion. And if you disagree, it’s ok. Start your own thread on how they treated you so well and how they met your needs.

I’m just sharing my observations, experiences, and opinion. You could learn something… or not. I don’t care.
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Bye Felicia.
Taz said:
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I ordered a couple of these tank grips, but haven’t tried them yet. Not sure if it’s what you want, but perhaps it would wrap around the tank cover?
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That's exactly what I'm looking for. Can you post a link for it?
 
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