Heat issues, addressed today by Ducati!

Trauma said:

(btw, sorry niner fans) This all may not matter. If they are truely donig this as a safety recall, they may very well be required to put it on whenever you take it into service, regardless if you want it or not. Second thing, ask yourself, if it was on when you bought the bike would you still have bought it? I'm guessing YES.

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It's not a safety recall, entirely your choice if you want it or not

No. Just no. That is not going on my Tri.

I will opt for ceramic coating and deal with the rest. That looks like the hump on the back of the Hunchback of Notre Dame !

Cheers,
MoZ

There is no way that is going on my bike, having said that I feel worse for anyone who gets a bike after this is implemented.

AGAIN, No One has confirmed that tis pic isnt a Hoax or some do it at home fix. So until that, im not going ot get upset about it. WHat ever it is, it will be incorporated on all new 2013 bikes so I wont look that different than any other 2013. As far as I know Im the only one with a 13 in Jacksonville anyway so what ever i choose to use, i will set the pace anyway

SoutheastJay said:

AGAIN, No One has confirmed that tis pic isnt a Hoax or some do it at home fix. So until that, im not going ot get upset about it. WHat ever it is, it will be incorporated on all new 2013 bikes so I wont look that different than any other 2013. As far as I know Im the only one with a 13 in Jacksonville anyway so what ever i choose to use, i will set the pace anyway

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See post #134. Do you think he is lying? I suppose it's possible....

Side by Side Comparison

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Photo of the kit fitted to a std setup

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Comparison of the "Rumored" heat replacement next to the Stock Pic.

Fact Or Fiction. I see a few things that are not consistant other than the new heat guards in these pictures... Do you?

Looks pretty clean but yet again, i am sick pup. I like weird looking things

Agreed, I don't think it's that bad.

Capt CF said:

Agreed, I don't think it's that bad.

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No, but it's bad enough. I agree with someone who said that if this was OEM when I bought the bike it wouldn't have made me change my decision. But, it wasn't and now I have a choice. Perhaps when I'm riding in July or August I'll think differently about it. Maybe if it came in matte CF I'd like it!

New Heat Shield for Full Termi

One thing that strikes me as being very odd is the Full Termi' NEW heat shield that is in the Ducati Performance accessories 2013 catalog.

I have attached several photos.

If you examine the photos (from the catalog) you will see that the NEW Termi' heat shield is a lot smaller and more attractive than the current one.

So my question is, in the face of the proposed heat 'solution/compromise' what is going on with what is being hawked in the DP 2013 catalog ???

Very puzzling.

Now that i have seen it for 12 or so hours, it bothers me less than first sight.

i do really like the open-ness of the current style, but i am thinking i will get used to it in time, i will wait to see it in person to make further judgement.

it is very interesting to me that some people are so effected by the heat and some people dont seem to think it is bad at all.

I guess as soon as Ducati ships this part, that some of the aftermarket companies will come out with better looking and more efficient product soon after.

Capt CF said:

I'm with you. I don't think it's that bad. What I would like, however, is some kind of data on how much cooler it makes the bike or at least a ride report or two, preferably from one of the people who complain/notice it the most. At least then the rest of us who aren't that bothered by the heat could make the decision on whether we want to go for it or not.

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I am not a Thermal Dynamics Engineer, but I am wondering if keeping all that heat in the head would cause any engine problems. The heat will transfer somewhere else and hopefully doesn't cause any fatigue or components failures such as water pump or radiator working overtime to cool off the engine.

I had a pretty unpleasant time riding at 15mph for a couple miles in 70ish weather with the full system on Sat. Normal moving it's ok, but it started to get pretty painful. I am excited to see what the full system gets.

Poor Ducati, a bunch of people were bitching about the heat - and I mean bitching A LOT about the heat. They come up with a fix, something I am sure took many hours of R&D to design, without containing the entire engine in one big cowl, and people are STILL bitching. Maybe I don't ride enough at high enough temps to decide to take the time to blog about it the heat, but know that they have tried to fix it, I certainly applaud them for the attempt.

CaliDuc said:

One thing that strikes me as being very odd is the Full Termi' NEW heat shield that is in the Ducati Performance accessories 2013 catalog.

I have attached several photos.

If you examine the photos (from the catalog) you will see that the NEW Termi' heat shield is a lot smaller and more attractive than the current one.

So my question is, in the face of the proposed heat 'solution/compromise' what is going on with what is being hawked in the DP 2013 catalog ???

Very puzzling.

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My guess is that the disclaimer is the Termi Full System is for "race only" and going fast a round the track you don't feel it like you do driving around town and they want it with max aerodynamics? Looks like most of the racers are just wrapping the header and not installing the heat shield.

took a Pani S for a test ride yesterday....in 70 degree ambient temps....got the bike up to 210 degrees....i must say that when at a stop, my right leg became unbearably hot, a bit more so than when on other Ducati superbikes i've owned. at speed it became tolerable, but the heat was still felt. having said that, i'm not sure that i could stand either one of those pieces shown above to help reduce the heat as i find them absolutely horrendous, the pipe guard more so than the cylinder head cover (seeing the head is a thing of beauty ).

please tell me that those two pieces are NOT the ones Ducati is offering. they just look a bit "goofy" in my opinion....to hide the head behind a piece of impregnated/molded plastic is unfortunate, and the odd-shaped bulk added to the underseat area is as well, at least to me it is.

ps: i enjoyed the test ride, it's an incredible motorcycle for sure.

Albert's heat sheild design may not be a moot point anymore to some

Trauma said:

Poor Ducati, a bunch of people were bitching about the heat - and I mean bitching A LOT about the heat. They come up with a fix, something I am sure took many hours of R&D to design, without containing the entire engine in one big cowl, and people are STILL bitching. Maybe I don't ride enough at high enough temps to decide to take the time to blog about it the heat, but know that they have tried to fix it, I certainly applaud them for the attempt.

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I agree with you. To the guy who thinks this may not be it, it is basically what my dealer described it would be about a month ago - and his personal demo is a Panigale.

CaliDuc said:

One thing that strikes me as being very odd is the Full Termi' NEW heat shield that is in the Ducati Performance accessories 2013 catalog.

I have attached several photos.

If you examine the photos (from the catalog) you will see that the NEW Termi' heat shield is a lot smaller and more attractive than the current one.

So my question is, in the face of the proposed heat 'solution/compromise' what is going on with what is being hawked in the DP 2013 catalog ???

Very puzzling.

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I'm sure the redesign is to allow mounting the pegs without cutting the carbon.

Trauma said:

Poor Ducati, a bunch of people were bitching about the heat - and I mean bitching A LOT about the heat. They come up with a fix, something I am sure took many hours of R&D to design, without containing the entire engine in one big cowl, and people are STILL bitching. Maybe I don't ride enough at high enough temps to decide to take the time to blog about it the heat, but know that they have tried to fix it, I certainly applaud them for the attempt.

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Hmm. Your entitled to your opinion.

My experience comes from a season in California.

In my personal opinion, we know that there is clearly a heat problem due to Ducati's actions, thus people's bitching is indeed well justified.

My comments on the 'compromise/solution' are based on what I currently see. Until the Ducati warranty heat item is fully tested then I for one am certainly going to wait this out. Like I have said we now know for a fact that the bike was launched with severe heat problems.

I love Ducati (money where mouth is) and it pains me to be open and honest about my criticism, however it certainly does not blind me to what they have and may deliver to address the heat. I really should not have had to invest significant dollars on ceramic coating an exhaust to make it more usable.

I do not think it is a case of poor Ducati, due to the price of the bike I feel it more than reasonable to provide experienced based feedback.

People are commenting on how the proposed fix is an eye-saw and ruins the looks of the bike (in my personal opinion). Sorry, this bike is way too expensive already, I have been lead to expect a comprehensive solution from Ducati (as per their own letter) and not a compromise.

Again, my personal feedback is that it looks crap. I would rather other folk bench-test the performance of the solution before I adopt it. Past precedence already dictates that there may be issues.

I really wish I could honestly suck it up, but on this one no way.