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Hmmmmm, Mixed review and feelings about the Panigale in MCN against the others
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Interesting review, the bmw is like 2 to 3 sec faster than everyone out of the box =X
I had a hard time choosing btw the bmw and panigale, but having ridden inline4 for years, i wanted a change.. =X
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Wow, that is not comfortable reading!
I know I'll never push this bike to its limit but the fact that stability and power are giving the BMW a massive 2 sec difference on the track kinda undermines the basic premised of buying this bike over the BMW.
Its not the same as a Nissan GTR outpacing a Ferrari but the Ferrari looks better - this thing actually does every job better than the Duke and is significantly cheaper!
I've got a deposit down on a 1199S but I'm now a bit unsure, given that MCN are obviously in Ducati's pocket and were given first access to the original bike to build the hype.
I know I'll never push this bike to its limit but the fact that stability and power are giving the BMW a massive 2 sec difference on the track kinda undermines the basic premised of buying this bike over the BMW.
Its not the same as a Nissan GTR outpacing a Ferrari but the Ferrari looks better - this thing actually does every job better than the Duke and is significantly cheaper!
I've got a deposit down on a 1199S but I'm now a bit unsure, given that MCN are obviously in Ducati's pocket and were given first access to the original bike to build the hype.
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MCN's reviews can only be trusted so much though.. i rmb in 2009 when yamaha r1 was released, the tester gave it the best superbike, saying it makes the fireblade feel like a 600 due to the lack of grunt.
In 2010, the superbike comparison tests, they annouced the 8th position being yamaha r1. Didnt know how it dropped from best superbike in 09 to worst superbike in 2010 =X
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I know what you mean there, everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt. I had an 09 r1 and thought wtf first to near enough last in a year when nothing changed.
This review won't ultimately change my mind but it does question it.... If I didn't want the new 911 by the end of the year it wouldn't bother me one bit but this makes me think lol
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Another thing is that the BMW out grunts the v-twin I noticed that it felt ack lustre below 6000 and this confirms it)
Most people will be buying this bike for looks, v-twin grunt and handling. At the moment it's only winning one of the three.... You wouldn't marry a supermodel if they were .... in bed!
I noticed that it felt ack lustre below 6000 and this confirms it)Most people will be buying this bike for looks, v-twin grunt and handling. At the moment it's only winning one of the three.... You wouldn't marry a supermodel if they were .... in bed!
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Another thing is that the BMW out grunts the v-twin
Most people will be buying this bike for looks, v-twin grunt and handling. At the moment it's only winning one of the three.... You wouldn't marry a supermodel if they were .... in bed!
I guess I really would like to read this even if its not very encouraging. My email is [email protected]
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So if it's not the best handling, not the fastest, not the most powerful stock..it's just good looking and sounds good (when you've shelled out another AUD2800 for Termis......it starts to put a dent in the reasons for buying.
I justified this to myself as buying the best superbike in the world, and even if I couldn't ride it to its potential, I was comfortable in that knowledge. Seriously, now the best part of $40,000AUD starts for a bike that places behind significantly cheaper competition is difficult to swallow, especially after all the hype surrounding the launch!
I justified this to myself as buying the best superbike in the world, and even if I couldn't ride it to its potential, I was comfortable in that knowledge. Seriously, now the best part of $40,000AUD starts for a bike that places behind significantly cheaper competition is difficult to swallow, especially after all the hype surrounding the launch!
Having read the full article (thanks Scott) I'm not too concerned. They aren't saying the Ducati handles badly - far from it, more that it is not quite as refined as the BMW. Also if you look at the lap times there is a fair amount of deviation over who was riding what. The Pirelli test rider was quicker on the Panigale than Hodgson on the BMW. Performance is one aspect I look at when buying a bike and for me the Panigale still scores better in all the other areas.
Two things to keep in mind. One, uncork the big twin with a full system it is going to pick up 10+hp. Recently MCN Dyno a Tri with and without the term slip-on and it gained approx 8 hp to 184.6! Second, every Ducati made over the past 20+ years was ever set-up for the average weight rider. In 2008, AMS in Dallas properly setup the new 1098r for the press launch it lapped the 2 sec faster.
With the right fork springs and the full system it will go S1000r hunting!
With the right fork springs and the full system it will go S1000r hunting!
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And then the beemer puts its full system on
back to level playing field!As you say, from the review it was all bikes with factory settings and Hodgson said it was a bit saggy at the rear. You never know BMW may have sent a "press special" but not sure they do that, thats left for the Italians
Im sure once set up properly the 1199 will gain more than the beemer could so maybe its not all bad
Ive told my dealer that if I'm spending £26k without a penny of discount i at least expect a top service so they are setting the suspension/sag for me when i pick bike up. As they run a race team i'm hoping they will do a good job
I agree with what you are saying but my comments are made through a bit of disappointment!
Remember the BMW is a lot less money to buy then the Ducati and even taking that aside, you are suggesting to spend a lot more money just to bring the Ducati up to the performance of the BMW, if you spent the same on the BMW, that would also improve it!
The comments were not only track related the Ducati was not so composed on the road either and the Ducati has the Ohlins fitted!
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