Lets talk ebc..

All 3 modes of my 1199 came set to ebc 1. So is that the highest? Pulling out the manual now

b9009b said:

All 3 modes of my 1199 came set to ebc 1. So is that the highest? Pulling out the manual now

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The setting that lets it engine brake the least is 3...

Yep just read that in the manual.. Stock setting in all 3 is EBC 1.. So I changed race mode to 3, sport mode to 2 and left wet mode at 1..

Ok, now wait a minute. Youd want 3 in rain mode. Personally I will use 3 for all my modes. You wouldnt want engine breaking in the wet, that would be counter productive to corner entery.. That would be the smoothest least ammount of back torque for the wet...

4 Settings

1.) "Off": The most engine braking (blip your'e throttle and match the engine revs to smoothen out the rev range)

2.) "1": a bit less engine breaking than "off

3. "2" : a bit less than "1"

4.) "3" : a bit less than setting "2" ( possibly the smoothest for wet weather)

for those of us who don't want as much engine braking, you gotta go with 3 despite the quirkiness it causes at low speeds.
I understand the OP's desire to see if the slipper can help with this.
If I had the cash, i'd definitely be putting on a slipper to see if it could reduce the breaking

krisskross our bikes have a slipper clutch already installed. Or do you mean a better one?

ok first off i like the fact that the bike has a slipper clutch but i try not to use it at all as its expensive to replace if you depend on it. All you have to do is blip the throttle and you dont ever need to use a slipper clutch.

second and this goes to the original question. 3 is the least braking as stated it goes backward the lower the number the more braking.

1299 people dont have to blip.

mark419ny said:

ok first off i like the fact that the bike has a slipper clutch but i try not to use it at all as its expensive to replace if you depend on it. All you have to do is blip the throttle and you dont ever need to use a slipper clutch.

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When I asked Ferracci the price of a clutch change I decided to never use the clutch unless I have too haha. I use the DQS and blipping. I swear aftermarket clutches are cheaper and may be better.

Just saw an OEM assembly for $280 new, and a clutch kit is $309, weird...
Yeah, I screwed up.. That clutch was used..
Looks like a TSS might be a good way to go..

Hot off the presses from Randy @ Bellissimoto
Corey,

TSS is the company that makes Yoyodyne's clutches and to quote Randy "its nothing you want in your bike" Kind of a "get what you pay for" scenario (I'm not knocking their other clutches, they were decent, but not the best since they are copies of the STM, which was not the best either especially with all the advancements in the last several years like the EVR CTS01 and CNC Racing's Mastertech).

We offer the EVR Slipper which incidentally is the slipper clutch used by all the WSBK teams and the TPL team here in the states that use the 1199/1299:
BellissiMoto – EVR Slipper Clutch, EVR Clutches, Covers, and more!
It is more expensive, but its worth the cost. besides, we would give you a discount anyway on it.


If you want to have a dry slipper, (which I TOTALLY get and would want as well) There is always the STM dry clutch conversion kit: BellissiMoto - STM Dry Clutch Conversion Kit for Ducati

Lyle


BellissiMoto – EVR Slipper Clutch, EVR Clutches, Covers, and more!

Spend the money on coaching instead . There is no need to replace the clutch in the 1199 or the 1299 .

wilkson said:

Spend the money on coaching instead . There is no need to replace the clutch in the 1199 or the 1299 .

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Without being impolite, I've been riding since I was 18, I'm 41 now, not that age has anything to do with anything.. I've done blipping/braking/and downshifting for years; I prefer a slipper to go quick as do others. Each to their own I suppose. Appreciate your concern tho. You really shouldnt assume I'm not familiar with a certain technique. A low thread count doesnt mean I cant ride..

Your money feel free to waste it .My dad has been riding since he was 16 he is now 78 his still not very good .

Badlarry said:

Without being impolite, I've been riding since I was 18, I'm 41 now, not that age has anything to do with anything.. I've done blipping/braking/and downshifting for years; I prefer a slipper to go quick as do others. Each to their own I suppose. Appreciate your concern tho. You really shouldnt assume I'm not familiar with a certain technique. A low thread count doesnt mean I cant ride..

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I'm not saying you can't ride everyone needs coaching . Replace coaching with tyres if it makes you feel better .
I' not saying your Bad Larry just saying your going to be spending money for nothing .

Badlarry said:

I tried it in #1 setting as that is how I recieved the bike and it was worse..

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Sorry, after further review of the posts and manual I misspoke and though 1 was the least...I'll have to check mine when I get home to make sure I'm not going crazy

I noticed a change in engine braking when I installed the tuneboy mapping, I believe the mapping holds the butterfly's open a bit for a small period of time when you close the throttle. I only really noticed this when I went back to stock mapping to get a reference and I'd settled on EBC 3 as my preferred setting.

in saying that this bike for me is one of the most stable bikes I've owned on downshift, so while not quite a blunt as Wilkson I agree with the principle...

Badlarry said:

Ill start with the disclaimer that I did search for a little while before this thread.
After I got my bike home a few weeks ago and rode those 40 miles or so before the forks took a chit I set up the race mode parameters to my liking with EBC set to 3 or in lamens terms full slipper...

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Did you only ride the bike 40 miles total ? track or street?
were you getting rear end chatter ?

I completely defend your right to modify your bike and also like dry clutches
I just can't find fault with the stock slippers on modern sport bikes on the track or on the street.

I'm confused at the original premise in this thread where you say your "riding style" relies on a good slipper clutch? What exactly is your riding style that requires a lot of clutch slip? You mentioned corner entry several times, and typically the purpose of a slipper clutch is to stabilize the bike during braking, not for corner entry. If you're literally chattering your back end on corner entry with the stock 1199 slipper clutch then you have some definite issues to address, and putting a different clutch in will likely not fix it. The EBC system is designed to aid corner entry, by reducing engine braking during turn-in to allow a smoother entry with more corner entry speed. That is not what a slipper clutch does. If the slipper clutch was still slipping as you were turning in you would likely have downshifted 1 gear too many. Or you're waiting until the last second to downshift right as you turn into the corner, which is the opposite of what you should be doing. You would find it much easier to get your downshifting done ealier in the braking zone and then focus on corner entry, and you would definiltey not have your clutch slipping as you turn in. What am I missing?

wilkson said:

Your money feel free to waste it .My dad has been riding since he was 16 he is now 78 his still not very good .

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Ill call your comment "constructive criticism" because your doing a wonderful job of contributing to the thread...