No. A bit of slop and longer throw.
New Panigale V4 is ugly?
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No. A bit of slop and longer throw.
I didn’t think it was at all ugly, which a lot are saying based on photos.
Interesting that the slip-on ‘race’ silencer (nearly the same weight loss as the full system - 6kg vs 6.6kg - but 4% power increase instead of 6% for the full system) does not let you add the software update for slicks. If you want to make it a dedicated track bike and run slicks then you’ve got to have the full 8,568 Euros plus fitting exhaust… That’s shocking pricing.
That’s assuming you actually ‘need’ that software to run slicks? Maybe standard software is perfectly fine - they had stock exhausts at the launch and were running slicks.
You can easily get the base model to 45,000 Euros without even touching the suspension.
I do fancy one but they are starting to take the pish a bit. Then again, I expect you could chuck some SC3 (or even slicks) on a standard bike and have plenty of fun on track.
Do standard exhausts create heat issues with track use or is it of no concern?
Very glad I got my R (and exhaust) for the nicely discounted prices that I paid.
Still tempted…
That’s assuming you actually ‘need’ that software to run slicks? Maybe standard software is perfectly fine - they had stock exhausts at the launch and were running slicks.
You can easily get the base model to 45,000 Euros without even touching the suspension.
I do fancy one but they are starting to take the pish a bit. Then again, I expect you could chuck some SC3 (or even slicks) on a standard bike and have plenty of fun on track.
Do standard exhausts create heat issues with track use or is it of no concern?
Very glad I got my R (and exhaust) for the nicely discounted prices that I paid.
Still tempted…
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Winglets on a streetbike is totally Squid like. Reminds me of the kids with huge rear spoilers on a Honda Civic.
They should at least be removable.
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Are the bolt-on like previous year models? Or is it molded as part of the fairing?
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These are bolt on and removable. Carbon replacements are optional. Pretty sure someone will make flush inserts at some point as well.
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They work great as frame sliders... don't ask me how I know. Also, carbon fiber winglets are pricy!
lol, i concur
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yep, great sliders. Mine cracked the fairing so they are now carbon reinforced and much more solidly mounted. I wouldnt get carbon wings any more than I would get carbon engine protection which should be engineered plastic or alloy. The new R-1 is going to be an expensive crasher!
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Why, what’d Yamaha do to it?
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My one concern about the bike is what can you modify without messing up all those fancy electronics. So I put a call in to Ducati…apperently you can get the V4 Base, switch out to a more track spec shock and fork, and it doesn’t mess with all the new fancy electronics at all.
So that’s what I’ll be doing. I think I’m gunna just do the Akra race cans too versus the full under tail exhaust. Only 2 or so CLAIMED hp difference between the two and only 1.2 pounds difference in weight. Plus I just don’t like the under tail stuff for a track day bike…cause when ya lay it down they are more exposed.
Planned mods are the lightest wheels I can find, lightest rotating assembly with the sprockets and chain I can find for it, the dry clutch, the newer version that’s 2 kilos lighter, upgraded shock and forks, brake MC, a tune, and cut as much weight out of it as I can. It’s a heavy bike, so will be interesting to see if I can get it below 400 pounds.
There will probably be a lighter track rear subframe out for it very soon.
So that’s what I’ll be doing. I think I’m gunna just do the Akra race cans too versus the full under tail exhaust. Only 2 or so CLAIMED hp difference between the two and only 1.2 pounds difference in weight. Plus I just don’t like the under tail stuff for a track day bike…cause when ya lay it down they are more exposed.
Planned mods are the lightest wheels I can find, lightest rotating assembly with the sprockets and chain I can find for it, the dry clutch, the newer version that’s 2 kilos lighter, upgraded shock and forks, brake MC, a tune, and cut as much weight out of it as I can. It’s a heavy bike, so will be interesting to see if I can get it below 400 pounds.
There will probably be a lighter track rear subframe out for it very soon.
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Anybody have pics of the TriColore livery on it?
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Are you seriously considering a tri? For your given use case, it seems like a waste. No doubt Ducati will put a price premium on a tri, but it will be all farkles.
2025 base with what you outlined will shape up to be an interesting bike for sure.
2025 base with what you outlined will shape up to be an interesting bike for sure.
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Oh no chance I’ll buy their tri, I’m just curious what this new bike looks like with a livery on it. If I like it enough I might get track fairings that color, but mostly I’m just curious
I’m sure it will be, and I read that it’s going to be £75,000…
With wheels and a lithium battery it shouldn’t be heavier than the S? Take off 6kg with the exhaust (apparently no slicks software with that exhaust - only with the full system according to the configurator). Track bodywork takes away lights and sound deadening. Where do you go from there?
Dry clutch is something I’d prefer over wet. I’m not quite sure why it needs to cost what they are charging though, other than the obligatory Ducati tax.
I think the low exhaust makes more sense.
I do wonder if the suspension on the S is actually limiting in any way and if it’s still better to get a base and upgrade (the rear shock for sure so it can be sprung correctly but apparently the front Showa are actually not bad)?
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I just like the sound of the dry clutch, but can't say that even on track I felt a difference between my S wet and R dry clutches. Am I ........, or is there a performance difference on track that y'all are wanting by changing an S clutch to dry?
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