panigale 1299s as first bike

i plan to buy my first bike next year and im considering the panigale 1299 s, i know how to ride a bike and ocasionally drive a yamaha r6, this would be a rational option or should start with a smaller bike. opinions and thoughts?

There will never be a single answer to such a question -- however, when you say you "know how to ride a bike" can you be a bit more specific?

Speaking in generalities, a superbike is not a good first bike, let alone one that has ~180HP at the rear wheel as the 1299 will.

If you're set on the Panigale, then strongly suggest you also consider the 899. Beautiful bike, arguably handles as well (perhaps better in some circumstances) as the1X99, and doesn't require kid gloves with the throttle

I agree with bjorgens. There is no such thing as a starter bike with these type of bikes. But as a former military motorcycle instructor i would recommend you trying the 899 before hand. Please. I recommended the same to all.

Mike

206 Hp...and Noob....sounds like a very sensible mix???

I mean...Really???? No way any bike over 250 in the sportbike category makes any sense to me as a first bike..... and even that has its dangers.... Learn to ride first..Please Buy a Bue;; Blast or some similar low powered easy to ride bike..and spend hours and hours learning just how to handle a bike... Then maybe..just maybe look at SuperSport...

I would also recommend an 899 I've been riding for over 20 years and the 1199 was a beast that had to be respected.

Totally recommend buying a 25k bike as your learner

What could possibly go wrong?

Are you 14 years old?

okay so in your opinion a 899 would work or a smaller one ??

The Kawasaki H2R is the bike for you, you'll reach your destination far quicker!

chacaoi said:

okay so in your opinion a 899 would work or a smaller one ??

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Honestly a cbr 300/ ninja 300 would be the best. You have learn to ride correctly to be fast on them. If not that small a triumph 675 or yamaha r6.

As has been alluded to above, even many years of experience doesn't really prepare you for what these bikes can do. Regardless of whether you are young or old it won't end well.

If you can't help yourself then make sure you do some level 1 track training early on (in parallel with any roadcraft training); this will ensure you realise your limitations pretty quickly in a safer environment (see how you do at your first 4th gear, no brakes session).

chacaoi said:

i plan to buy my first bike next year and im considering the panigale 1299 s, i know how to ride a bike and ocasionally drive a yamaha r6, this would be a rational option or should start with a smaller bike. opinions and thoughts?

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I would not recommend it.

Sounds trollish.

Besides that, get a bike that's fun and easy and offers cheap spare parts.

Like any 600, or a twin 650... Not over 100HP.


After min. 1 year and 10k miles go for the bike you lust after.

Dude, just get the bike. Don't listen to people trying to sell you down- if you get something you truly you don't want. You won't be happy.


But, I do believe you'll be over your head with the power and brakes, not like it matter since it sounds like you'll won't be racing it or trying to make crazy lap times. You know- just cruzin it. Just watch out or it'll bite.

If you have the money, are responsible and safe, and can ride an R6 proficiently, you'll be just fine on a 1299. That said, if you aren't really confident, and have never been in situations where you've had to save slides, dodge things, or any other of the things that happen riding that you just can't practice, an expensive big bore bike might not be the wisest platform on which to experience those things for the first time. Same as why pilots get lots of hours on cheap trainers before they are turned loose so they don't bore a hole in the ground with a $100M jet.

Also consider that something like the 899 is much better suited to traffic and slower riding. When you are on an 1199/1299, and you get anywhere near cars or traffic, you feel like a shark desperate to keep enough speed up to get cooling. If you have ready access to high-speed canyons or backroads, no problem, but they are not all that much fun just trolling around. My 899 has much better manners, but will still power-wheelie in 2nd gear. That's plenty for the street, I think. An 899 with about another $3k invested in suspension upgrades, and my brake fix (pratically free) listed in the 899 section gets you within 1 second of the 1199 on the track. My 899 usually pulls with 1198' and R1's on the track. You obviously get left down the straights by 1199's and HP4's. As an owner of almost every iteration of the bike, I have no prejudice in saying that I think most people would be quite happy owning an 899 if riding was your primary goal. If you just want the biggest baddest thing, that's different. Another thought. The dealer her has sold quite a few 899's, but very precious few of them have come back to be sold used, so people must like them. If you got one, rode it a while, got some experience and then decided it wasn't powerful enough, I don't think you'd take much of a beating trading it back in on a 1299.

WAfatboy said:

As has been alluded to above, even many years of experience doesn't really prepare you for what these bikes can do. Regardless of whether you are young or old it won't end well.

If you can't help yourself then make sure you do some level 1 track training early on (in parallel with any roadcraft training); this will ensure you realise your limitations pretty quickly in a safer environment (see how you do at your first 4th gear, no brakes session).

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What he said.

Even though I don't know your skill set or natural ability to master riding a race bike I would make sure you don't write a check that lack of experience can't cash.
Can't deny that I love to ride the beast

I got 2012 1199s as my first bike. After 14000kms, as amazing the experience is, I wouldn't suggest it as a first bike at all.
Any other 600 bike or 899, even s1000rr are much less overwhelming hence you can focus more on your skills. With every ride I am learning the bike as well as the skill. Smaller bikes for a beginner would be no less fun.
If you have to get a panigale go with 899.

Get the bike you want. Buying one of these things is a passionate decision. Buy something you'll love. It makes the payments easier to swallow.

If you are wanting a track bike, I'd say the opposite. Buy something easy to learn on and build up. But, riding on the street isn't

If you're a d*ckbag and want to ride at 9/10ths on the street, you'll prob get bit. It won't be by the bike, it will be by a minivan.

Just go wet mode.

chacaoi said:

i plan to buy my first bike next year and im considering the panigale 1299 s, i know how to ride a bike and ocasionally drive a yamaha r6, this would be a rational option or should start with a smaller bike. opinions and thoughts?

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There's a lot of humble bragging going on when people talk about the level of skill required to ride a superbike. The reality is that if you're just riding around on the street in a legal/sane manner anyone with two brain cells to rub together can ride one. It's not rocket science. That said there are far more entertaining, better bang for your buck street bikes out there.

If you're interested in getting into track riding get a smaller bike. You'll be faster on a smaller bike and your wallet will thank you should anything happen to the bike.

I would be intrigued to see how many of you guys..... who support the concept of a total Noob riding a superbike..... would let them ride their bike????