Please help. I am considering buying a Panigale R

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fzr100098 said:
Nope - there are real numbers, straight from the horse's mouth. Check out p. 28 and 34 of that cool book that came with your new bike (dyno curves)

1299: 205 hp, 106.7 lb-ft
1199R: 205 hp, 100.5 lb-ft
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That was my point, it means nothing

Lab condition numbers, bench testing. 6 lb-ft will not equate to a massive advantage in the real world.

But if you want to go that way, one thing for certain, fact is that by comparison, the 1299 has to change gear or 'short shift' compared to the R and that will add up.........

Anyways, as the gentleman already said, it's about the grin......... the last time I came in off of mine it took a full 2 hours before my face had calmed down enough to be able to remove my crash helmet!!
 
rawdog said:
Guys,

I made the big mistake of going to my local Ducati dealer and checking out the Panigale R. The bike is just gorgeous. The dealer has offered me a nice deal but it means trading in my 2014 Panigale S which I bought and taking a loss since I bought it in Jan. Has anyone on this forum made the leap to the new R? Is it worth it?

I am also considering trading my 2013 Multistrada in for a new one instead of getting the R. Thanks for the advice and opinions.
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I think just buy the one you want and for the reasons you justify to yourself and your wallet. Reviews and other peoples opinions don,t really matter. As for performance on street or track well, last time I was at a track day I got smoked by a guy who was on a 1198 who could really ride fast, but we were at a track fun day. It was not a race meeting.

I like the all red on the 1299 so would probably buy it. Go with what feels right for you. IMHO. :)
 
My problem is simple - there will never be a 15R available for a test ride in Australia - sure I can ride a 1299S tomorrow but I am comparing it to my 14R and I know the 1299 will be a better bike.

That is not my dilemma, it's 1299 or 15R so that means looking at numbers and listening to dudes that own either and get to ride the other - I will never be able to do the comparison myself.

I like the idea of the greater torque and power peak hitting lower in the rev range for a street bike (which is same reason I bought a C63 coupe over an M3 coupe in 2013), but I .... the look of the R better, I am coming from an R and going from the flagship to something less seems to me to be a backward step and the difference between an S with full Akra and the carbon fibre bits I want compared to a 15R is $2k Australian - so you end up with an R for $2k more or an S with $7k worth of bits and from what I can tell, on a roll on race side by side from say 40kph upto 200kph (typical squirts) a R and a S with full Akra are probably going to be very close anyway. That's why I am leaning towards the R - of course this would all be a non-issue if they did an R with bigger displacement but then that would defeat the purpose of the R
 
To the OP:

I have had a base model Hypermotard that I spent several thousand dollars on, including blueprinting the engine at DucShop. I had a base model 1098 and 848 before the evo designation.

I made up my mind this time to try the "S" based on my experiences with past Ducati's, I can't tell you which model is "better" because I haven't owned them all.

I have found that if you buy something straight from the factory closer to the way you want it, then you are generally more satisfied with it then having to add extra performance parts to it. That's my experience, your experience may vary.
 
Grayson said:
I still have no ragrets about my S.
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Love mine!

Grayson said:
I have found that if you buy something straight from the factory closer to the way you want it, then you are generally more satisfied with it then having to add extra performance parts to it. That's my experience, your experience may vary.
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I could not agree more. Buy it close to what you want will save you $ and heart ache. There is no best bike...except mine!(All riders feel this way)
 
I was in the same situation, had a base 1199 and a few others base bikes, got a SF S and couldn't have been happier, followed by a Hyper SP. When it came time for the new superbike I got the S and no have regrets
 
I had the exact same dilemma as you have. Buy the "R" which is what I really lusted after, or buy the 1299S, which was more practical, due to the fact that I commute every day on my bike.

I went with the 1299S finally and I think I made the right decision for ME. When I get my 1299S to the track, I highly doubt I will be too worried about the extra .5 of a second I might have been faster on the "R" by... I doubt there are many of us on this Forum, even those of us who have a ton of racing experience, that NEED the "R", but with our toys, it's always a case of how much "WANT" do you have for it? If the "R" is what you really want, then buy the "R" and don't give it a second thought.

When it comes down to it, this is such a personal decision, that only you will know whether the "R" is worth it to you. I can tell you that I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the 1299S and even though it may not be as "special" as the "R", I am quite OK with that.
 
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double0 said:
Your analogy is a terrible one. Let's go with the "if you're not tracking it" blah blah blah....are you tracking your bike? If so, are u pushin the limits most of the time? I mean .......u may not be riding an R but you are riding a superbike. People can practically race with a base model fresh out the crate.

These bikes are ridiculously advanced in many ways....far more than majority of us can extract out of the bike. That said, the GT3 buyers, any Ferrari, Lambo, etc. all buy their cars/bikes because it's what they want. They don't have to track it, push the limits or any of that. Doesn't make them an elitist. Makes them an enthusiast who just happen to be wealthy enough to afford expensive toys. I got my 1199 because it's a sexy ... motorcycle and i knew i was going to customize it anyway. I purchased a Lexus RC-F couple months ago and have absolutely no intentions on tracking or pushing its limits. Should I just have gotten an RC350 instead? Hell no. Am I wealthy? Nope. Don't even make a 6 figure income but it's what I wanted. If it fits within my budget, I'll buy whatever puts the biggest cheesy grin on my face, whether I'm pu$$y footin around town or rompin on the freeway.

Get whatever the hell u want. The ones passin judgment are simply expressing their jealousy.
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I agree. I own and drive constantly (35K miles so far) a Porsche GT3RS. It would make a wonderful track car, but I prefer to use it on the street because every time I see it in the garage, or start it up, it puts a grin on my face. Racing as we all know is expensive and potentially damaging to the vehicles. I had my fill of it years ago, and now just enjoy the occasional canyon. Worth every single penny to me. My Tricolore isn't as fast as the new R model (or even the 1299 base), but it is more than fast enough for my liking, and it too puts a big grin on my face every time I ride it. Go for what stirs your soul, and while opinions from the peanut gallery here are fine, you are the one who must live with your decision, and make the monthly payments. Good luck on your search.
 
HarmonyJim said:
I agree. I own and drive constantly (35K miles so far) a Porsche GT3RS. It would make a wonderful track car, but I prefer to use it on the street because every time I see it in the garage, or start it up, it puts a grin on my face. Racing as we all know is expensive and potentially damaging to the vehicles. I had my fill of it years ago, and now just enjoy the occasional canyon. Worth every single penny to me. My Tricolore isn't as fast as the new R model (or even the 1299 base), but it is more than fast enough for my liking, and it too puts a big grin on my face every time I ride it. Go for what stirs your soul, and while opinions from the peanut gallery here are fine, you are the one who must live with your decision, and make the monthly payments. Good luck on your search.
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Well said!!
 
Get the R. Sounds like you want it so get it. Getting the multi sounds more practical, which is why it's the wrong decision. Cheers
 
Sorry OP, you can't be helped.
I avoided visiting my dealer for 6+ months because I knew what would happen when I would see the R ( mind you I'm talking 1199)
Sucks to be you, enjoy it. No regrets here.
 

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