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Incidentally, my R got knocked over while stationary by some ........ It caused over £6200 in damage......... I reckon you could stick a 1 in front of that figure if she did it to this bike!!

Current SL Fairings are something like $5k-7k? They say, there is an difference between someone able to buy something and not able to maintain it.

I'm that guy! Lol. Can buy it but too afraid of maintaining it. I.e. Accidents, breaking something or what not. :eek:

Reason for me not to buy Desmo RR even though I love the bike.
 
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Current SL Fairings are something like $5k-7k? They say, there is an difference between someone able to buy something and able to maintain it.

I'm that guy! Lol. Can buy it but too afraid of maintaining it. I.e. Accidents, breaking something or what not. :eek:

Reason for me not to buy Desmo RR even though I love the bike.

if the sl fairings not including tank are 5-7k there is a major problem. why? because when i wanted to buy tri colore fairings without the tank it was 7k. so if you are correct the carbon fairings are the same price as the plastic ones?

ps i have carbon tri fairings lol
 
if the sl fairings not including tank are 5-7k there is a major problem. why? because when i wanted to buy tri colore fairings without the tank it was 7k. so if you are correct the carbon fairings are the same price as the plastic ones?

ps i have carbon tri fairings lol

Did you not see a question mark ?

when I say 5-7? that means I am not sure. I have seen it for that much from second hand markets.

Current SL Fairings are something like $5k-7k? They say, there is an difference between someone able to buy something and not able to maintain it.

I'm that guy! Lol. Can buy it but too afraid of maintaining it. I.e. Accidents, breaking something or what not. :eek:

Reason for me not to buy Desmo RR even though I love the bike.
 
I find it interesting that no one seems concerned about how the 1299SL will handle. Using carbon fiber in the two key flex points on the Panigale - the swingarm and the monocoque airbox - is going to change how the bike handles a lot more than switching from aluminum to magnesium.

This could be good or bad. But if you ask Ducati Corse, or especially Casey Stoner and Nicky Hayden, they're not going to have positive things to say about a carbon fiber frameless bike.

Nonetheless, the Panigale is a beautifully engineered design with elegant solutions to eliminating the frame altogether. It's too bad that it was so uncompetitive, and that it has taken Ducati several years to get the bike to even win a single WSBK race (although they've now definitely gotten the bike sorted out!).

Despite being a Panigale, using carbon fiber in those key points really makes it the closest thing you'll ever get to a GP10 replica, and that's a very cool thing. I'd want to know how the bike handles on a track when pushed, before dropping $65k on one, which would require reports from riders flogging their 1299SLs on tracks.

I doubt many 1299SLs will see much track time however.
 
oh, and in terms of weighing less, and making more power. Unless this is your bike on the grid in a racing series, I don't really seeing it matter very much - the 1299, with basic modifications and deleting superfluous parts, is already extremely lightweight.

Well actually, it does matter, wherever bikers gather and you're standing around in your leathers quoting numbers while sipping your latte....
 
I find it interesting that no one seems concerned about how the 1299SL will handle. Using carbon fiber in the two key flex points on the Panigale - the swingarm and the monocoque airbox - is going to change how the bike handles a lot more than switching from aluminum to magnesium.

Ducati's own words were "it will be ethereal". They must have top engineers on this, it will have to be better than anything else available, surely?!

But I'm going to have a shot in the dark and say it will improve. As is a Panigale is very rigid with no flex compared to it's trellis framed bretheren. This should help(?)
 
oh, and in terms of weighing less, and making more power. Unless this is your bike on the grid in a racing series, I don't really seeing it matter very much - the 1299, with basic modifications and deleting superfluous parts, is already extremely lightweight.

Well actually, it does matter, wherever bikers gather and you're standing around in your leathers quoting numbers while sipping your latte....

Weight matters a lot when I'm setting it on it's work stands. Conservation of energy. Flicking it left right left through the chicane with less effort? Another bonus.
 
And with less weight you can go back to drinking your sugary fat filled latte's with whole milk instead of that non-fat skinny ...........:D
 
1000% agreed, you CANNOT fully appreciate just how awesome these bikes are unless you track them.

That is what they are made for.... The SL is not a fun street bike, but on the track it is unbelievable.

Just because you are on the track, doesn't mean you need to go try and win a race, just go out on at your own pace & don't be stupid.

I don't ever go nuts on my SL, but I push it enough to bring a big ... smile on my face.

I agree too. The times I have had my 1199 at the track is the most fun you can have on a bike. Especially a track day with a clear track in front of you. A couple of times I have had the red mist up and nearly lost the front end trying to catch some guy on another bike in front of me.

As BigBoost says have fun just don't risk crashing your pride and joy because it is not a MotoGP title, its just you against yourself and your own lap times.
 
I agree too. The times I have had my 1199 at the track is the most fun you can have on a bike. Especially a track day with a clear track in front of you. A couple of times I have had the red mist up and nearly lost the front end trying to catch some guy on another bike in front of me.

As BigBoost says have fun just don't risk crashing your pride and joy because it is not a MotoGP title, its just you against yourself and your own lap times.
I admire you guys that can put $30+ worth of sportbike on and track with the possibility of wadding it up into a little ball. I'll be hitting the track soon but, not with my pride and joy. It'll be with something that I care a lot less about and have a lot less invested in lol.
 
I find it interesting that no one seems concerned about how the 1299SL will handle. Using carbon fiber in the two key flex points on the Panigale - the swingarm and the monocoque airbox - is going to change how the bike handles a lot more than switching from aluminum to magnesium.

This could be good or bad. But if you ask Ducati Corse, or especially Casey Stoner and Nicky Hayden, they're not going to have positive things to say about a carbon fiber frameless bike.

Nonetheless, the Panigale is a beautifully engineered design with elegant solutions to eliminating the frame altogether. It's too bad that it was so uncompetitive, and that it has taken Ducati several years to get the bike to even win a single WSBK race (although they've now definitely gotten the bike sorted out!).

Despite being a Panigale, using carbon fiber in those key points really makes it the closest thing you'll ever get to a GP10 replica, and that's a very cool thing. I'd want to know how the bike handles on a track when pushed, before dropping $65k on one, which would require reports from riders flogging their 1299SLs on tracks.

I doubt many 1299SLs will see much track time however.
I just talked to someone at my dealer today that's seen the bike that it's going for 80K. Suppose to be a claimed 215 bhp.

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I find it interesting that no one seems concerned about how the 1299SL will handle. Using carbon fiber in the two key flex points on the Panigale - the swingarm and the monocoque airbox - is going to change how the bike handles a lot more than switching from aluminum to magnesium.

This could be good or bad. But if you ask Ducati Corse, or especially Casey Stoner and Nicky Hayden, they're not going to have positive things to say about a carbon fiber frameless bike.

Nonetheless, the Panigale is a beautifully engineered design with elegant solutions to eliminating the frame altogether. It's too bad that it was so uncompetitive, and that it has taken Ducati several years to get the bike to even win a single WSBK race (although they've now definitely gotten the bike sorted out!).

Despite being a Panigale, using carbon fiber in those key points really makes it the closest thing you'll ever get to a GP10 replica, and that's a very cool thing. I'd want to know how the bike handles on a track when pushed, before dropping $65k on one, which would require reports from riders flogging their 1299SLs on tracks.

I doubt many 1299SLs will see much track time however.

most will never tell the difference re: frame and swingarm in terms of flex. how often does the actual race team that was using carbon swingarm/frame (they don't because it is not optimal for too many reasons) test these critical parts between races? do you think they just leave the swingarm and frame on the bike for the whole season if it's carbon? no way. and how many teams run carbon rims?

this iteration is ......... sorry. i love the og SL so i am not "hating", just calling it like i see it.
 
if the sl fairings not including tank are 5-7k there is a major problem. why? because when i wanted to buy tri colore fairings without the tank it was 7k. so if you are correct the carbon fairings are the same price as the plastic ones?

ps i have carbon tri fairings lol

Yeah, that number is way off. Complete set of CF fairings for the SL (I think including tank, when I priced this last) is ~$19k :eek:

EDIT: here it is
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That's $17,891.16 before tax
 
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Just buy the CDT/Full Six set and call it a day. way less that the SL stuff and you get a carbon tank in regular or hi-cap, the fairing stay and the carbon electronics holders. I found the Ducati stuff more brittle that CDT (the hard way). My opinion, the CDT stuff is better made (my DP fenders are wavy in places as an example). Problem with CDT is fit. It does require some massaging
 

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