Random Stalling - 1199 R

R with 1040 miles....has never stalled on me in any situation and I've had my engine temps reach 241F.

I still have my charcoal canister as I just haven't had time to remove it. I'm also very careful not to fill my tank all the way to the lip with the bike on the stand so shouldn't get much gas volume leaking into the overflow line. I can honestly say that was one of the first tips I picked up on this board.

hsharpag91 said:

R with 1040 miles....has never stalled on me in any situation and I've had my engine temps reach 241F.

I still have my charcoal canister as I just haven't had time to remove it. I'm also very careful not to fill my tank all the way to the lip with the bike on the stand so shouldn't get much gas volume leaking into the overflow line. I can honestly say that was one of the first tips I picked up on this board.

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-- well (just fyi).....you should probably remove that canister...(although if you are careful with topping off the tank, you're being correctly cautious)...the aggravation caused by a filled up canister can really "suck" as it can create a strong enough vacuum to suck in your gas tank (implode it), or something so simple as to prevent a restart......

agreed....my extra time these days I have wanted to ride instead. May have to make a late night of it and get it done.

I'm not a fine of riding at night around where I live...to many four legged beasts around that like to jet out in front of you to make your day suck really bad.

One thing I noticed with my 1098 and 1198 was that there was a strong odor of gasoline when parked. Was this due to the overflow line being exposed to the atmosphere?(The little tube which was hanging from underneath the motorcycle?)

A question about the vacuum line. On the website I posted earlier it read that the vacuum line will be "vacuuming" air from the atmosphere and re-directing it to the engine and since it is unfiltered air being fed into the engine, there is potential for dirt debris to find it way in to the engine, in turn damaging it. On AntiHero's write up he instructs us to block the vacuum line completely. What effect will this have on the engine as it is meant to "vacuum" out vapors from the charcoal cannister and redirect it to the motor. Instead it's to be plugged. Could this interfere with air to fuel ratio's?

TWR said:

One thing I noticed with my 1098 and 1198 was that there was a strong odor of gasoline when parked. Was this due to the overflow line being exposed to the atmosphere?(The little tube which was hanging from underneath the motorcycle?)

A question about the vacuum line. On the website I posted earlier it read that the vacuum line will be "vacuuming" air from the atmosphere and re-directing it to the engine and since it is unfiltered air being fed into the engine, there is potential for dirt debris to find it way in to the engine, in turn damaging it. On AntiHero's write up he instructs us to block the vacuum line completely. What effect will this have on the engine as it is meant to "vacuum" out vapors from the charcoal cannister and redirect it to the motor. Instead it's to be plugged. Could this interfere with air to fuel ratio's?

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-- good question, but i believe your statement "unfiltered air being fed into the engine" is incorrect - i cannot say with certainty, but the vacuum line runs back up into the air box (not the combustion chamber directly) i believe (someone correct me if i'm wrong) the a/f ratio is determined after the air box by the ECU

I have 800 miles on mine. It stopped stalling. I had it happen 6 times.

I'm up to 1250 miles now. No stalling at all--this includes tedious city riding, stop and start rush hour traffic, as well as track days and open road.

R with full system installed before delivery.

I put a bazaaz system on my R and had it dyno'd to smooth out the low end air/fuel and have not had issues since

devilsnight said:

Hmmm, the common denominator here is you! You are the reason your bikes are stalling.

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man, you sound like my dealer who loves to blame me for everything. if my dealer can blame me for bad weather he would too

mig1199 said:

No stalling problems on my "S"...idles fine no matter how hot temps are....
Heat from the rear exhaust header loop is my one and only complaint with this Pani. Had a 916 in '97 and 748 in '98...never did they have stalling problems except for burnt regulators, oil leaks, fuel pump issues, electrical problems and cam belts snapping issues...long before a Ducati Distributor (Ducati Manila- Access Plus) was introduced here. Sold all my old ducs and purchased a brand new 1999 R1...never owned ducatis since...

Till now...purchased this 1199 "S" Brand new last May 2012...no major issues...has 8,200kms so far...
Been going on trackdays, Racing it in the Ducati Cup and been riding out of town on Sundays...no major issues... so far!!!

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YOu are so lucky! why do good things happen to other people while all the bad things happen to me my 848 stalled a lot, my 1199r stalls in stop and go traffic but not as much as the 848.

I have the same thing TWR. Have the full Termis installed right before delivery. 800 miles on the bike and it stalled regularly.

Also when doing Interstate in 6th at 4500-5000 rpm it seems that there is hesitation. When remaining a constant speed in that rpm area I can feel the bike having trouble breathing as you know what I mean. I run Sport mode with 195Hi throttle setting. It will go back to the dealer.

Socal said:

I put a bazaaz system on my R and had it dyno'd to smooth out the low end air/fuel and have not had issues since

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SoCal seems to be the only one "on to something here".....sounds like he did the one thing none of us have yet, and solved his "issues"........

RD16RR - I think you are right the air to fuel mixure takes place after the air is filtered and sent into the engine. However I will ask the dealer when I take the bike in on Friday(two days from now). The bike has not stalled yet since my last fill up and three days worth of riding.

On average, how long do you guys usually let the bike sit between rides. I've been in a routine of riding bi-weekly. This also might play culprit to what we are seeing, just investigating.

Panifale1199R - you and me both, however I don't feel the hesistation as of yet.

Desmodromic System, I hear you on that one. Everyone else's bikes work perfect except for ours.

I am starting to get a little agitated over the fact that Ducati's Quality Assurance is letting product out that's in a way defective. It maybe to meet demand.

I will take my bike in this Friday to the dealer. I also found an oil leak yesterday. There is what seems to be look like a pressure switch connected to the engine block right above the clutch housing. close to the oil filler cap (black threaded cap) I am seeing some oil leakage through the thread and on to the exterior surface of the engine block housing.

What the heck is going on with Ducati.....I do not know.

TWR said:

RD16RR - I think you are right the air to fuel mixure takes place after the air is filtered and sent into the engine. However I will ask the dealer when I take the bike in on Friday(two days from now). The bike has not stalled yet since my last fill up and three days worth of riding.

On average, how long do you guys usually let the bike sit between rides. I've been in a routine of riding bi-weekly. This also might play culprit to what we are seeing, just investigating.

Panifale1199R - you and me both, however I don't feel the hesistation as of yet.

Desmodromic System, I hear you on that one. Everyone else's bikes work perfect except for ours.

I am starting to get a little agitated over the fact that Ducati's Quality Assurance is letting product out that's in a way defective. It maybe to meet demand.

I will take my bike in this Friday to the dealer. I also found an oil leak yesterday. There is what seems to be look like a pressure switch connected to the engine block right above the clutch housing. close to the oil filler cap (black threaded cap) I am seeing some oil leakage through the thread and on to the exterior surface of the engine block housing.

What the heck is going on with Ducati.....I do not know.

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-- i wouldn't become over stressed about the things we're talking about - they are somewhat trivial - i'm not saying you are incorrect in trying to determine the root of the causes.....but you should recognize that they are not "unacceptable".....(unless, of course, they are for you)

-- Ducati motorcycles in particular are the type that have "these little things" - its a simple fact, and one that many long term owners can easily wax philosophical over (have more than a few beers discussing)

-- i'd agree completely, and would understand wholeheartedly when someone switches to another brand to avoid the, whats come to be known as, overwhelming complications....i simply see them as nit-pics, little annoyances that keep me interested, focused, paying attention to the bike.....the sweating fitting above your oil filler cap is a prime example.....for years there was a crankcase breather valve near that same location that would regularly deposit oil on the engine case.....definitely not a problem, but it could easily be seen as a huge oil leak (by the non-ducati guy)

-- if you want something hermetically sealed, a motor that requires little or no maint. a "gas and go" motorcycle.....ducati is not the one

You're right, it's just my paranoia.

I had a 1098 and a 1198 that pretty much no issues as such. Except for the regulator rectifier recall on the 1098's.

The older bikes it seems as if they were built almost to a higher standard.

RD16RR - you have a desmo I take it? have you had many issues with it?

TWR said:

You're right, it's just my paranoia.

I had a 1098 and a 1198 that pretty much no issues as such. Except for the regulator rectifier recall on the 1098's.

The older bikes it seems as if they were built almost to a higher standard.

RD16RR - you have a desmo I take it? have you had many issues with it?

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....lol's, "you asked"........scroll to post #52 (or just read below, so as not to over bore yourself)....here you go:

15k Service @ Cliffs in CT - ducati.org forum | the home for ducati owners and enthusiasts

and here:

15,000 mile service re-cap - ducati.org forum | the home for ducati owners and enthusiasts

and finally:

...for your reading pleasure:

-- overall it was a very special motorcycle, that provided me with the highest SPMF (Smiles Per Miles Factor) of any motorcycle i have ever owned(period)....without creating a list, i can say that i've owned plenty of bikes to compare it to

-- the saddest part of ownership were the service appt's (simply because it separated me from the bike), which for no real good reason other than its exotic nature (parts, service knowledge, shop schedules/special technician) would take weeks on end....notably.....literally months to get done....in the end though it doesn't matter.....it has been one special motorcycle, which i'd gladly repeat purchase for the same experience...

-- as it turns out....after 4 seasons, 23,000+ miles, 1 initial, 2 minor and 1 major service, along with a few trips back and forth to the shop for a few "incidentals"(1 blinker, 2 tail lights, bubble in the cooling system, new rectifier, wire harness glitches), broken shifter spring/stuck in second gear (better than stuck in neutral) ......

- 16 sets of tires (1 set every 1500 miles)
- 1 case of oil used for topping off between rides
- 1300 gallons of fuel (approx)
- 2 ignition coils
- 8 exhaust valves
- 12 valve shims
- 3 clutches
- 1 shifter return spring
- 1 sprocket set
- 1 under tail exhaust heat shield
- 1 footpeg stabilizer bar
- 1 rear blinker
- 2 tail light units
- 1 rectifier
- 1 chain
- 1 set front rotors
- 1 set front pads

....i've decided to take a rest from ducati ownership for a while.....while it has been a pleasant journey, i welcome the pause(i've owned 4 916's of different flavors, 999r and then the d16rr - each bike with plenty of service miles)....so i have semi-officially retired the d16rr......enter......1 - 2012 kawasaki zx6r - excellent bike, high spmf, and service (when needed) is not a symphony....... after this ducati experience......"thanks for the memories......."

Same thing

I was going through the same thing the bike would stall or be hard to start when hot but I tried something I read after a ride just let the bike idle for 30 sec then hit the cut off switch then the key so far it works no problems but I'm still watching it

With about 400 miles on the duc it stalled while making a slow right hand turn in 1st gear. Before I could clutch it, I couldn't save it and went down. It did over 7k worth of damage. And needless to say I was extremely pissed off.
They have repaired it and now will stall occasionally when Idling. We will see as it is in now for the 600 mile deal and geting the Termi's installed.

Socal said:

I put a bazaaz system on my R and had it dyno'd to smooth out the low end air/fuel and have not had issues since

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Can you post the graph?

Went to the dealer yesterday. Concerning the stalling it seems there is a relation with the clutch handle switch. There is a small bendable metal piece in that switch. Not sure how I can explain this. When you pull the clutch you will see it hits the bendable metal piece and actuates the switch. We made sure the clutch switch is working a bit earlier then it was. This switch is also important for the engine braking system. It all works together. clutch, switch, engine braking, butterfly opens tiny bit when engine braking system works. No more stalling for me today.

The surging between 4 and 5k rpm is due to the lambda prope they told me. In the second upmap Ducati probably changed something for emissions again.

Hope this helps for others.