Random Stalling - 1199 R

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desmodromic system said:
YOu are so lucky! why do good things happen to other people while all the bad things happen to me:( my 848 stalled a lot, my 1199r stalls in stop and go traffic but not as much as the 848.
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Desmodromic - Bring it back to Ducati Manila...have them re-flash the ECU with a new updated map...that will solve your stalling problems...My Club200 riding buddy who bought an "S" on the second batch that arrived, had the same stalling issue. He just had the ECU re-flashed with the updated map and problem was immediately solved.

Bring it to Wilcon- He knows what to do. ;)

Now unless you have a problem with your shifting technique in stop and go traffic...that is a whole different issue now. :D
 
I got mine serviced two weekends ago. I haven't stalled since. I have a feeling some excess fuel might have found it's way into the charcoal cannister and as a result it started acting up.

The bike runs great. The redline moved back and the bike is an absolute dream to ride hard. I absolutely love it. The engine feels even more crisp as I go higher and higher.

As for the leak I mentioned earlier, it was a dried up gasket which needed to be replaced. They fixed that problem as well.

I will keep you all posted as to the coming weeks and my personal experience.

RD16RR a special thanks to you bud, for your very detailed explanation and for helping me keep my mind.
 
TWR said:
I got mine serviced two weekends ago. I haven't stalled since. I have a feeling some excess fuel might have found it's way into the charcoal cannister and as a result it started acting up.

The bike runs great. The redline moved back and the bike is an absolute dream to ride hard. I absolutely love it. The engine feels even more crisp as I go higher and higher.

As for the leak I mentioned earlier, it was a dried up gasket which needed to be replaced. They fixed that problem as well.

I will keep you all posted as to the coming weeks and my personal experience.

RD16RR a special thanks to you bud, for your very detailed explanation and for helping me keep my mind.
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-- just sharing the Ducati love :)
 
I'm up to 2065 miles on my R now. 5 track days and the rest mixed road trips and commuting.

So far no stalling or other problems.

The original tires are holding up well--the riding mix tends to even out the wear. :D
 
Guys an Update. Did quite a bit of riding this past weekend and the week before. Bike did not stall once. I'm not going to say it because I do not want to jinx myself. However, I will say that things are indeed much better since the first 600mi service.

I hope all you guys are keeping well.

Thanks again!
 
750 mi on my R and only one stall ever...which was today. Pulled the clutch in @ 40mph in 2nd gear in Race to coast to a stoplight (first time I've done that). I've done the same repeatedly in Sport or Wet without issue.
 
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A guy pulled up behind me on an R at a stop light today and the bike went silent, he shook his head, restarted it and when we got to the next light it did the same thing. I tried to catch him at the next light to tell him about the charcoal canister and this thread but he turned off the road before I got a chance (I was in the car). It's the first R I've seen on the street - it looks awesome in the flesh but it was disappointing that it was exhibiting the stalling issue. The rider was evidently getting quite frustrated.
 
Panigale1199R said:
Went to the dealer yesterday. Concerning the stalling it seems there is a relation with the clutch handle switch. There is a small bendable metal piece in that switch. Not sure how I can explain this. When you pull the clutch you will see it hits the bendable metal piece and actuates the switch. We made sure the clutch switch is working a bit earlier then it was. This switch is also important for the engine braking system. It all works together. clutch, switch, engine braking, butterfly opens tiny bit when engine braking system works. No more stalling for me today.

The surging between 4 and 5k rpm is due to the lambda prope they told me. In the second upmap Ducati probably changed something for emissions again.

Hope this helps for others.
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Well I read this and had the stalling problem really bad - literally every day it would stall.

I checked out my microswitch and noticed that with the OEM lever, the switch was only being activated with the lever virtually touching the grip. This meant that unless the clutch lever was completely in, the switch wasn't being activated.

I checked out another forum members switch, which had CRG Levers and his switch is activated with the lever 1/3 of the way out from the grip - he has not had any stalls.

So, I put a small strip of rubber on the blade piece so that it trips the switch much earlier. Since then (now a week), no stalls whatsoever.

:D
 
Chippy, Great to hear the problem is solved.

May I bother you for a detailed description of how to go about doing that? Simply because I am not that mechanically inclined.
 
Have a look at your clutch lever from below. You can see the switch and a tiny thin metal blade that moves when you pull the clutch. It actuates the switch. You can carefully bend this piece outward a little bit so the switch will be actuated sooner when you pull the lever. Hope I explained it right this way.
 
Parigale1199R, thank you very much for the explanation and description.

So if I understand you correctly, this tiny blade should be pulled/pushed towards the lever and away from the handle bars so when the clutch lever is pulled in the tiny blade contacts the surface of the lever earlier.

lol...I sincerely apologize for my ignorance and repeating exactly what you said above.

Thank you very much, I will try it when I get home today.
 
TWR said:
Parigale1199R, thank you very much for the explanation and description.

So if I understand you correctly, this tiny blade should be pulled/pushed towards the lever and away from the handle bars so when the clutch lever is pulled in the tiny blade contacts the surface of the lever earlier.

lol...I sincerely apologize for my ignorance and repeating exactly what you said above.

Thank you very much, I will try it when I get home today.
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Correct. Sorry, I couldn't get back earlier. Was a weekend at the Superbike race on the Nurburgring. As a guest of the Ducati Alstare team.

How did it work? No stalling anymore?
 
Not a problem at all.
Badovini really impressed me with his superpole, but then disappeared during the races. Ehh another frustrating performance. Despite, overall I think Alstare Ducati they're showing improvements. I hope next year they'll be able to be claiming victories more often.

Your experience must have been quite awesome. At least I think it's awesome.

I followed your instructions and gently pulled on the thin metal strip and positioned it a tad bit closer to the switch. I have yet to take it for a ride. I hope the metal doesn't flex back, is there a way to prevent it from flexing back?

Chippy applied a rubber strip on to the metal strip, I wonder what the specs were on the rubber part he used. That would be my next course of action if the metal flex's back to it's original position.

Thanks a lot for the inquiry and help, I appreciate it a whole lot.

All the best.
 
Make sure that that little pole on the lever touches the blade sooner then it did. That way the switch actuates sooner.

I will post photos on the forum of the weekend at Ducati.
 
Thanks again Panigale1199R, I will be sure to check for that.

And looking forward to seeing the pics.

Viva Ducati!!!!!!
 
Sorry, been on holiday.

The rubber piece I used, was the first thing I came across in the garage - a sticky rubber pad that's used on kitchen cupboard doors to stop them for slamming when shut. About 5mm thick, but to be honest it was probably a little too thick.

Best thing to do is to see where your lever "sits" when you are stopped in the traffic/at lights, in gear with clutch in. I found (and I'm sure most people don't) have the lever right the way back to the grip (whish is where my switch was originally tripping), my lever was generally about 15mm from the grip - (I have quite large hands so the lever reach is quite wide). You then want the rubber to be thick enough to trip the switch a bit before your lever reaches your usual place that your lever "sits" when clutch in and in gear.
 
Thanks for sharing the pictures, the even looks awesome. Glad to see you guys had a real good time.
 
Chippy thank you very much for the information. I will visit my local hardware store and look for a thin piece of rubber which will work with my particular lever positioning.

I have slightly bent the thin metal piece towards the lever and find that the rpms don't drop as low as they used to before. Since, I have not yet had a stalling incident. I think this is the fix, I have a gut feeling.

Thanks again for your time, I truly appreciate your time.
 

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