I noticed today that first gear has a very inconsistent throttle response on my R. For example, if I hold the throttle steady at 4 to 5K RPM, it revs up and down making the bike jumpy. I was riding in sport mode but it happened the whole time. Could it be that the up-map was not installed correctly?
Throttle Response Inconsistent
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In first gear, with a steady RPM of 4 to 5K, you can't be going very fast and there's hardly any load on the motor. More importantly, I bet the throttle is nearly closed. My R and my RC51 both don't like that either and can be very rough.
I think your bike is fine. It's a race bike that wants to be ridden hard and fast, and they aren't quite tuned for docile putting around in traffic with the throttle barely open.
Chris.
I think your bike is fine. It's a race bike that wants to be ridden hard and fast, and they aren't quite tuned for docile putting around in traffic with the throttle barely open.
Chris.
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try EBC set to 3
That's a good place to start.
Also have a look at your hand/wrist position on the throttle (The wrist should be quite low to start with) whilst being relaxed through your upper body, and more support through your core muscles to support your torso with knees gripping the tank more.
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Not much more to add other than asking your dealer to make sure that the maps are up to date and that the air bleed screws?/throttle position sensor/throttle bodies are set properly. Having said that, unless you explore ECUs, exhaust kits, sprockets, dyno tuning and the like, it's probably going to run a little rough down low.
Coming from years of inline 4s and this being my 1st Duc it is not like the 4s where you could ride around town in first. I now see that first on this bike is for balls to the wall and that it is not a cruise around town friendly bike. This thing loves the upper end rpm all day long. Just coming back from the Dragon I have learned that 7000 rpm and up is where this bike lives. This thing is an animal.
My base does/did the exact same thing. I disabled the Exhaust valve which helps out (a bit) with that... But I don't have a "fancy" exhaust to eliminate that pesky thing...
The rest of the time, I just tell people that it's her famous Italian bad temper... It's as if she is throwing a tantrum about wanting to go out and how I never take her to fun places.
The rest of the time, I just tell people that it's her famous Italian bad temper... It's as if she is throwing a tantrum about wanting to go out and how I never take her to fun places.
It will be hitting the track soon. I will just be growling in the pits like a rabid dog
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That's for sure.
I've had quite a few Japanese inline-4 bikes;
600s, 750s, 1000, 1100, even a ZX-14.
They are smooth as silk anywhere in the RPM range.
The Pani is a much different experience in the lower revs.
I wonder:
Can the low-RPM lack of civility be simply a fueling/tuning issue?
Maybe the overall engine design (oversquare twin/cams/etc) what causes this.
Maybe the drivetrain system.
Maybe the ride-by-wire system?
There are plenty of twin-engined bikes that behave great when taking it slow.
Ultimately "Yes" it's a superbike.
"Yes", it wants to be running free.
"Tempermental Italian mistress...blah blah"
"Holy cow, above 7k it's amazing".
Yes, of course, it very well better be.
But:
a) Other just as powerful and just as high-tech superbikes don't act this way.
b) Panis are sold as street machines, and can't be expected to be ridden balls-out all the time.
It'd be nice to have more refinement in the lower/slower range.
Not really a complaint. Just bored and wishing out loud. On the internet.
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i wish i could agree i was on a S for a test ride after i bought my R couple of ladies waiting at traffic lights so i gave it a little rev......... Both gave me the look of you must have the smallest ..... i was shattered yet still bought one hahahaahahaa
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Are you still in the break in period? Mine behaves the same way and I'm hoping that passing the 600 mile limit will open things up.
Are you still in the break in period? Mine behaves the same way and I'm hoping that passing the 600 mile limit will open things up.
Yeah. I will have the break-in service done this week (Thursday) so hopefully things will improve.
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Cool, please keep me posted.
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I've lived with an RC51 for 13 years, and I've done a lot of street miles on it. My first impression of it when I got it was that it was geared way too high for the street and had me choosing gear and rpm combos that the bike hated. A really popular mod for it was to knock a tooth off the front and add a tooth at the back. That was an aggressive change but it made the RC a really easy and powerful bike to bomb around in the city. It completely transformed the bike and it was a hell of a lot of fun to ride.
My first impression of the R is that it's geared even higher than my RC before I changed its gearing (first gear on the R almost feels like second on the RC). Honestly, typical traffic and speed limits makes me feel like I'm lost between two gears looking for the ideal ratios. I can't imagine what the Panigale must have been like with the older 39 tooth rear sprocket.
I'm considering getting a 14 tooth front sprocket. It could make the R a lot easier to live with daily. Then maybe I can have my cake and eat it too; a ridiculous superbike that is easy to live with.
Chris.
My first impression of the R is that it's geared even higher than my RC before I changed its gearing (first gear on the R almost feels like second on the RC). Honestly, typical traffic and speed limits makes me feel like I'm lost between two gears looking for the ideal ratios. I can't imagine what the Panigale must have been like with the older 39 tooth rear sprocket.
I'm considering getting a 14 tooth front sprocket. It could make the R a lot easier to live with daily. Then maybe I can have my cake and eat it too; a ridiculous superbike that is easy to live with.
Chris.
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