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Paul G said:
I guess 622,000 dead people would have an opinion on that if they were still alive. You have illustrated the main point, it's not about healthy rugged individualist you, it's about the other person who is more vulnerable like say grandma or some immune compromised person that an unvaccinated person is far more likely to spread it too. So the question is; does personal freedom outweigh civic responsibility?

As for invermectin in India, its ........
healthfeedback.org

No data available to suggest a link between India’s reduction of COVID-19 cases and the use of ivermectin

India experienced a decrease in the number of COVID-19 cases in May 2021. However, no data is available to support the claim that this is causally associated with the recommendation to use ivermectin. The slow down of the disease spreading began before India released official recommendations to...
healthfeedback.org healthfeedback.org

That was in May, since then they have dropped the quackery

www.indiatoday.in

DGHS drops Ivermectin, Doxycycline from Covid-19 treatment; ICMR rules unchanged

The revised guidelines have also dropped drugs such as hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc and multivitamins, that were earlier prescribed by doctors to treat asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic Covid-19 patients.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
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That article does not state it was a quackery. It’s says it’s undecided and has stopped issuing medicine for the non-symptomatic.
that was June.
look at India's numbers now:
How is that quackery if it worked for a country of a billion living on top of each other? Looks like it worked.
There is some strong information bias here.


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Hmmm, I don’t watch the news but the wife wife just told me that the Johnson & Johnson “One Shot” vaccine now needs a booster. Maybe they should change the name.
And she said there is now a “Lambda” variant? At this rate you will be getting shots till you die of injection trauma.

Lastly, with the FDAs approval of Pfizer’s vac you would assume it confers some sort of additional protection for the consumer. Nope, you still have to sign a waiver that protects Pfizer for 3 years from litigation.
Deal with monkeys, get monkey business.
 
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Yep with the way they are going with it all next variant will be the epsilon then after be zeta .... people be getting shots till he cows come home lol


I didn't even know there was a vaccine. Any vaccine I ever had, hep, flu
endodoc said:
Hmmm, I don’t watch the news but the wife wife just told me that the Johnson & Johnson “One Shot” vaccine now needs a booster. Maybe they should change the name.
And she said there is now a “Lambda” variant? At this rate you will be getting shots till you die of injection trauma.

Lastly, with the FDAs approval of Pfizer’s vac you would assume it confers some sort of additional protection for the consumer. Nope, you still have to sign a waiver that protects Pfizer for 3 years from litigation.
Deal with monkeys, get monkey business.
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Damn...
"Do covid vaccines prevent infecting? No
Do covid vaccines prevent replication? No
Do covid vaccines prevent transmission? No
Do covid vaccines prevent new variant of covid? No
They were never designed to do that.

95% effective at ATTENUATING SYMPTOMS for the first variant ONLY that is now gone.
Neutralizes Pertussis toxin - which attacks the lungs - so lungs are safer, however viral load in nasal and other eras is unaffected.

With the vaccines we have created a whole class of asymptomatic pertussis carriers who are increasing the disease."

The more you are vaccinated with flu shots the more likely you are to get much more sever version of the flu. A paper was just released to show that the covid vaccine amplifies the new delta version.

"The most reluctant class of people avoiding vaccines are PhDs educated in the field."


craig bush said:
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95% effective at ATTENUATING SYMPTOMS for the first variant ONLY that is now gone.
Neutralizes Pertussis toxin - which attacks the lungs - so lungs are safer, however viral load in nasal and other eras is unaffected.

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I would augment this part as this is also difficult to prove. If you get Covid and your vaccinated and you have mild symptoms there is no possible way to quantify the contribution from the vac vs the contribution by your own immune system. That same person unvaccinated may have has the same symptoms. The people who are vaccinated and showing up at hospitals are the same people who would be showing up unvaccinated.
 
endodoc said:
I would augment this part as this is also difficult to prove. If you get Covid and your vaccinated and you have mild symptoms there is no possible way to quantify the contribution from the vac vs the contribution by your own immune system. That same person unvaccinated may have has the same symptoms. The people who are vaccinated and showing up at hospitals are the same people who would be showing up unvaccinated.
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Yep. I’m of the opinion that nearly every data point regarding this pandemic from source to policy response to medical management is questionable.

I’m also of the opinion that it’s hard to overstate the importance of Dr. Park’s testimony.
 
Guess the horse paste didn’t work for him…

www.rawstory.com

Anti-masker 'not doing good' as lungs stiffen from COVID-19: 'They've run out of options for him'

The situation appears grim for the head of a "Freedom Defenders" group in Texas who opposed masks and vaccines before going into the hospital with a COVID-19 infection.Caleb Wallace has been hospitalized with the coronavirus since the beginning of August, unconscious, alone and heavily sedated...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com

That’s right, as Trump said…it’s all a democratic hoax and it’ll magically go away….
 
I don't think this has much to do about ivermectin being a way to treat covid as much as it does that the vaccine mandate being an ineffective way to reduce the numbers. As has been said by the doc in the video who is in the field of mrna research and such, there is no proven record that the vaccine helps with anything. If anything, it makes things worse for people who are vaccinated since the original version of covid is practically non existent and that the vaccine does nothing for the variants since it was never designed for that. The flu kills hundreds of thousands of people per year and the vaccine isn't mandated. Covid is no different. The .... doesn't work. I'll believe any doctor who comes forward with medical facts whose career is in the spoken field over any media outlet or common persons personal opinion. That video was just an eye opener.
 
If covid is no different than the flu, care to point out when’s the last time hospitals were running out of oxygen?
 
You're focusing on something completely different than the point being made in the video and that is the vaccine doesn't do .... for the current delta variant which is basically the main variant out there nowadays which seems to have been caused by the mutation in people who originally took the vaccines. Essentially what she's saying is the vaccinated people are causing the non vaccinated people to get sick with this delta variant.
 
DCPanni said:
If covid is no different than the flu, care to point out when’s the last time hospitals were running out of oxygen?
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Do you even read the articles you link? Lol
From the article:

“Mayhew says part of the problem is a lack of delivery drivers. But she is also worried that there is an oxygen supply problem.”
 
LOL When your global health and wellness experts have the same accuracy with regard to predictable outcomes as your local weather man, it may be time to reevaluate. Complete .... show in all sides.

If this degree of professionalism existed in aerospace we would still be checking rubber bands at Kitty Hawk. What a ....... embarrassment.
 

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