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Well the calipers bolt to the forks and the trees determine where the forks end up so center to center has got to be same as oem if you are to use oem wheel and oem offset rotors

No spec just a dimension

They are cnc and have Italian quality control. What could possibly go wrong : )
 
endodoc said:
LOL out of spec, who’s Spec? There is no standard. This place is crackers
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From my understanding he's using stock wheels and stock spacers. The variable is the IMA triples. These are things that could influence wheel centerline. Sounds like he's trying to reference to the stock wheel/spacer spec. Therefore the IMA triple should adhere to the stock triple spec in order to fit up properly. If the IMA triple fork holes were off by <1 mm (maybe it shifted slightly during machining), it might pass QA since it's such a small deviation but the effect is magnified once all bolted up.

Or the rotors are off. Or his forks are bent. Or it wasn't assembled correctly.
 
rac1ngsnak3 said:
From my understanding he's using stock wheels and stock spacers. The variable is the IMA triples. These are things that could influence wheel centerline. Sounds like he's trying to reference to the stock wheel/spacer spec. Therefore the IMA triple should adhere to the stock triple spec in order to fit up properly. If the IMA triple fork holes were off by
Or the rotors are off. Or his forks are bent. Or it wasn't assembled correctly.
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Exactly this. I have no reason to believe a product advertised for my bike would have measurements different than stock. Especially when it’s not specified that way. That’s why I’m asking if anyone else ran into this problem.

If this is super common, then it sounds like keeping the wheel centered is all that matters. Maybe. But still I think I’d say IMA messed this one up if they are out of stock spec.


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craig bush said:
Do you have the oem triples on hand to measure?
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Yeah I do and I thought about comparing. It’s just super annoying now I have to waste my time to pull it off. All of these pieces are very difficult to position right. The thumb brake, which they again advertised for fitting my bike. Barely fits with the stock and race fairing. I guess it’d either be new spacer or wasting an entire day...


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If it were me... I'd loosen all bolts on the IMA triple and give everything a wiggle to relax the system and then gradually torque up the bolts in the pattern IMA specifies just to hand tight so it doesn't fall apart when fully assembled. I'd then clean all surfaces where the spacers and wheel interface. Then I'd dry fit the wheel and barely seat the axle and see if you get the same alignment issues. If the alignment issue is still there give the lowers a wiggle to see if it works itself out. If it doesn't fit that way, then there's something off. Send the IMA triples back and call it a day.

Unless you're a top level racer, you won't notice that much of a difference and it seems like these triples are more trouble than they're worth. Revert back to stock. Your time is money!
 
Don, I told you, he forgot to do the wiggle. Easy fix.like I said, I plan on making spacers “every time” I build a front end and I end up making them “every time” this is a 20 min fix. Good luck man.
 
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endodoc said:
Don, I told you, he forgot to do the wiggle. Easy fix.like I said, I plan on making spacers “every time” I build a front end and I end up making them “every time” this is a 20 min fix. Good luck man.
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I'd hate to have a front end built by you then. You shouldn't have to custom machine spacers for each build especially if they adhere to OEM specs. I believe what you're saying is that your forks are misaligned or your wheel is misaligned.
 
Yeah we’ll play around with it. It didn’t help that the Bursig stand is never getting here (7 months of waiting and counting). We strapped the bike to ceiling and put an engine jack down below when we swapped the triple. It was a pain in the ass to say the least.

Before I was hoping to try out shorter wheelbase setting with this triple. We found out that there is no way the thumb brake clears if we pull the triple back with that spacer. So now the triple has became sort of a bling piece. These IMA pieces really don’t play well with the bikes they claim they fit.


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endodoc said:
Custom builds don’t conform to a stock spec. That’s why they call them “custom Builds” and please don’t come on here and tell guys small measurements don’t matter. That just leads to .... poor work habits. Go ahead brother and post up some pics of your expertise, I’m sure we would all love to see what you base your experience on.
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You first. Let's see all these "custom builds" of yours. Also if you read, I didn't say that "small measurements don't matter." I believe I said small errors get magnified.
 
PNW Landshark said:
Yeah we’ll play around with it. It didn’t help that the Bursig stand is never getting here (7 months of waiting and counting). We strapped the bike to ceiling and put an engine jack down below when we swapped the triple. It was a pain in the ass to say the least.

Before I was hoping to try out shorter wheelbase setting with this triple. We found out that there is no way the thumb brake clears if we pull the triple back with that spacer. So now the triple has became sort of a bling piece. These IMA pieces really don’t play well with the bikes they claim they fit.


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I'm finding with more ownership of a Ducati that Italian engineering isn't the most logical. I mean just the way that a Panigale is put together is mind boggling and makes no sense.

Perfect example is the right fuse box location impeded by this black plastic piece:
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/RANT

Sorry we commandeered your post, Karl. Carry on with your winter project. Love seeing the work that goes into these builds. I live vicariously through them.
 
There ya go Sparky. Let’s see you stuff. I’ll post more front end stuff if ya want it
 

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Back on target, if you want help fixing the bike I suggest you PM someone you feel is credible and maybe do a zoom call to figure it out.
 

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