Would you choose a V4R or SP2 for trackday use?

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gtomachine710 said:
I agree. Although they have put the R into production. Highest number I've seen so far is in the 1600's.
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I believe the number of SP2s out there is very similar to the number of V4Rs. I saw numbers up to around 1400 on the SP2 the last time I was in Ducati newport. They had around 6 of them on the floor for the last large shipment of SP2s
 
craig bush said:
Alternatively, one might reasonably recognize buying one of these bikes exclusively for track use makes way more sense than buying one exclusively for road use.
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My problem is I can't imagine riding a $40-50k motorcycle on the track. I'd probably prefer to have something much cheaper on track so I don't have to worry as much. Something at that price point I'd much rather ride the hell out of in the canyons and still have the ability to keep it nice.
 
gtomachine710 said:
My problem is I can't imagine riding a $40-50k motorcycle on the track. I'd probably prefer to have something much cheaper on track so I don't have to worry as much. Something at that price point I'd much rather ride the hell out of in the canyons and still have the ability to keep it nice.
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I’d say if you ‘ride the hell” out of it in the canyons then that would be a greater risk than on the track. 🫣🤣
 
gtomachine710 said:
My problem is I can't imagine riding a $40-50k motorcycle on the track. I'd probably prefer to have something much cheaper on track so I don't have to worry as much. Something at that price point I'd much rather ride the hell out of in the canyons and still have the ability to keep it nice.
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this is a don't understand bit....or lets call it an unconscious incompetence! So you consider riding on a restricted poorly surfaced public road with .... coming the other way a more safer environment for your 40-50k bike and you, than a enclosed track with no speed cameras safety facilities smooth surface yada yada
 
craig bush said:
Alternatively, one might reasonably recognize buying one of these bikes exclusively for track use makes way more sense than buying one exclusively for road use.
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Actually I totally agree. These are way too fast for a road bikes. But I'm way too old for trackdays. I think under AFM rules, I can run 2 races and my expert license is reinstated though. What's the issue with 20 years between sanctioned races. I finally have after changing the head bushing, shortening the wheelbase etc. a Pani with high bars. It's transforming into a total weapon. A fine motorcycle with a few niggling problems. I'm going to buy the parts and raise the SA pivot.
 
there was a std 2023 street fighter going around Jerez this week ( along with two KTM 1390 things, and a 1200 Multistrada and two Kramer/ktms) .....he was enjoying himself....
 
spooky said:
I’d say if you ‘ride the hell” out of it in the canyons then that would be a greater risk than on the track. 🫣🤣
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True but you have to make a whole day out of it, tow it to the track, do a bunch of prep etc. Not saying that's a bad thing. I live 10 minutes from endless miles of canyons, which itself is great given I don't need to be around anyone most of the time lol.
 
andyb said:
this is a don't understand bit....or lets call it an unconscious incompetence! So you consider riding on a restricted poorly surfaced public road with .... coming the other way a more safer environment for your 40-50k bike and you, than a enclosed track with no speed cameras safety facilities smooth surface yada yada
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If that's what you want to call it. I'm not driving through city streets with "speed cameras", as you make it sound like.
 
gtomachine710 said:
If that's what you want to call it. I'm not driving through city streets with "speed cameras", as you make it sound like.
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He’s in the UK - awful roads, cameras everywhere… it’s not great. Thankfully I’m no longer there and now live one hour from Most (current WSBK venue) and two hours from Brno (former, and hopefully again quite soon, MotoGP circuit).

There are some good roads around here but I don’t have a load of endless canyon roads within ten minutes - if I did I might spend more time on the road. 🤣

That being said, there are no cars on the track and everything’s going in the same direction, with consequences of crashes perhaps not quite so bad as on a road.
 
spooky said:
He’s in the UK - awful roads, cameras everywhere… it’s not great. Thankfully I’m no longer there and now live one hour from Most (current WSBK venue) and two hours from Brno (former, and hopefully again quite soon, MotoGP circuit).

There are some good roads around here but I don’t have a load of endless canyon roads within ten minutes - if I did I might spend more time on the road. 🤣

That being said, there are no cars on the track and everything’s going in the same direction, with consequences of crashes perhaps not quite so bad as on a road.
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Agreed. All depends where you live. I consider myself lucky.
 
craig bush said:
To my understanding , both behave like a 15 weight oil at cold temps.

15-50 behaves like a 50wt at operating temp.

15-40 behaves like a 40wt at operating temp.

So the 15-50 maintains greater viscosity at operating temperature (i.e. thins less as it warms).

The 15-40 isn’t “thicker”.
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Meant 10-40, sorry
 
spooky said:
He’s in the UK - awful roads, cameras everywhere… it’s not great. Thankfully I’m no longer there and now live one hour from Most (current WSBK venue) and two hours from Brno (former, and hopefully again quite soon, MotoGP circuit).

There are some good roads around here but I don’t have a load of endless canyon roads within ten minutes - if I did I might spend more time on the road. 🤣

That being said, there are no cars on the track and everything’s going in the same direction, with consequences of crashes perhaps not quite so bad as on a road.
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You have nice brothels there too
 
spooky said:
He’s in the UK - awful roads, cameras everywhere… it’s not great. Thankfully I’m no longer there and now live one hour from Most (current WSBK venue) and two hours from Brno (former, and hopefully again quite soon, MotoGP circuit).

There are some good roads around here but I don’t have a load of endless canyon roads within ten minutes - if I did I might spend more time on the road. 🤣

That being said, there are no cars on the track and everything’s going in the same direction, with consequences of crashes perhaps not quite so bad as on a road.
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I live about 2 miles from the base of the eastern slope of the Sierra's. When the snow's melted I'm about 20 minutes to one of the passes (it's about 30 miles long). I zigzag and can go over 3 in a day ride. All awesome. The best place to ride in the world is the american west. Thousands and thousands of miles of twisty secondary roads. In Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, the Dakota's and most of Colorado you couldn't find a cop let alone a camera to save your life. And since they finally passed the infrastructure here they've all been repaved. Repaved not patched. Ah...
 

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