1199 R Superleggera

Duck41 said:

Since the official Panigale Superleggera specs were released, many of us have contentiously discussed its value and whether Ducati’s heavy marketing, hyping, and high pricing of the Panigale SL are justified. Because of this, I’ve been interested in quantifying what value the Panigale SL offers over the next best Ducati offering (Panigale R) and comparing that to the value the Desmosedici RR offered over the next best Ducati bike of its time. Obviously the overall value someone attributes to a particular item is subjective, so for the purposes of this examination I attempted to quantify value based off pricing differentials and a very select set of performance characteristics: horsepower, torque, and kerb weight. Other factors that contribute to value by offering uniqueness or additional performance enhancing qualities (e.g., DTC, launch control, inclusion of exotic materials, number of units produced, etc.) were not factored but should certainly be separately considered.

The model I contrived to derive performance values is very simplistic. Each horsepower unit, lb-ft. of torque, and lb. of weight is equivalent to one point with advantageous differentials always being calculated in the positive and disadvantageous differentials always being calculated in the negative. Differentials between the bikes in each category are combined into an overall point total where they are then divided by the price differential and converted into a percentage. As differentials increase, total points correspondingly increase and must be weighed against the price differential to determine a value percentage. As value increases (performance advantage divided by cost to make the jump from the next best), so too does the performance value percentage.

The Desmosedici RR was announced in 2006 during the last year of reign for the highly successful 999R; however, production did not begin until 2007 and the first unit was not actually delivered until January 2008 - the same year the much touted 1098R was released. Due to this spread, performance value calculations for the Desmosedici were made using both the 999R and the 1098R for comparisons.

My findings were as follows:

Desmosedici Value Comparison:

• Ducati 999R: 85.5 points with a price differential of $41,005 = .2085%
• Ducati 1098R: 16.5 points with a price differential of $32,505 = 0.0507%

Panigale Superleggera Value Comparison:

• Ducati 1199R: 32.5 points with a price differential of 35,005 = 0.0928%

Conclusion:
The Desmosedici RR was an extraordinary step above everything else at the time of its unveiling and offered a tremendous performance value compared to the 2006 999R, but by the time it was actually delivered and in the hands of the public, the performance value it offered over the next best performing bike (1098R) was considerably less. Based on these figures, the Panigale SL not only matches the performance value offered by the Desmosedici RR when it was finally delivered, but it nearly doubles it! Thus, it could be argued that if an argument could have been made for purchasing the Desmosedici based solely on its performance characteristics and price compared to the rest of the Ducati lineup at that time, then an equally strong, if not stronger, argument could be made to justify purchasing the Panigale SL for the same reasons.

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TricoloreSF said:

If anyone here chooses to buy/not buy a motorcycle using any of the calculations above, remind me not to invite you to my next party.

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acowsik said:

Over 75% of them have been sold already so I am guessing it won't be long before all of these are taken.. congrats to those who have decided to own this awesome machine

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Stw said:

Source???

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acowsik said:

Ducati 1199 Superleggera, 200 cv per soli 155 chili - News - Moto.it

Translate the paragraph quoted below..

"Sarà disponibile in soli 500 esemplari, ciascuno dei quali contraddistinto ed impreziosito da un
numero progressivo inciso direttamente sulla bellissima testa di sterzo. Dal debutto, comunica Ducati, sono già state vendute più del 75% delle moto che verranno prodotte. Il prezzo è di 66.000 euro."

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acowsik said:

Over 75% of them have been sold already so I am guessing it won't be long before all of these are taken.. congrats to those who have decided to own this awesome machine

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ttkarp said:

Really? Wonder why MotoCorsa is begging people to put down deposits on their facebook page then?

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acowsik said:

TBH idk what they r thinking.. unless they are dumb enough not to know that

1. You need to have been invited first to access the Project 1201 website on or before Oct 18. Ducati obviously needs to have your information and know that you are an interested buyer.

2. You need to currently own a Desmosedici RR, Panigale R or a Panigale S Tricolore to be given preference.

My dealer contacted me and told me that I needed to put the deposit down ASAP last week itself and I was not in any position to do it.. seeing that they have sold out over 75%, these will be picked off pretty soon anyways

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acowsik said:

Yup.. that's pretty much it.. no regrets but the SL is an awesome machine nevertheless..

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Panigale1199R said:

I will wait another 5 years and buy one used with 100 km on it.

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DucatiBobski said:

I got the invite for the SL form Ducati in the UK and put my name in the hat for a place on the "list of 500" never thinking it would come out ? but surprise surprise I have been selected to be a "lucky onwer"

Now I need to stump up the deposit and decide if I want to trade in either my 1098R Bayliss or 1199 Tricolore, assuming you can trade against the SL ? can I really justify the cost of the SL or do I stick with what I have ?

Decisions decisions !!

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acowsik said:

The Bayliss was really a great looking bike with the race decals and all that bling.. the Tri looks great but if you had to trade something, I would swap the Tri out for it if really committing..

I am not sure if the 1098R was considered as a eligibility criteria.. I read somewhere it was mainly D16RR, Pani R and Pani S Tri owners (in that order) and u can use the Tri as a trade-in towards the SL.

I was invited too and the dealer said I could trade-in my Pani R but was not financially in a position to put down the deposit immediately so I backed off..

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