Base or 1199S. Serious help needed for the choice

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Thanks outhouse. Glad its better than standard lights. The standard bulb on my hyperstrada sucks all together.
 
b9009b said:
I ride semi hard on the street (including my strada) and when i could do track days i rode really hard. I weigh 180lbs. is that too much for the ohlins on the s?
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Nope Im 195lb and the stock set up after setting sag works great for canyon carving.

It would be fine for track days,. but if your speed is higher then most, then ya you might want more fine tuning that could possibly require new springs.

At 180, your right in the freakin sweet spot and should be able to terrorize on a S


Typical Ducati, rear spring on the stiff side almost set for 2 up

Front is a bit on the soft side, but after tightening it up the sag numbers were sweet, right at the edge/limit of my weight
 
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outhouse said:
Nope Im 195lb and the stock set up after setting sag works great for canyon carving.

It would be fine for track days,. but if your speed is higher then most, then ya you might want more fine tuning that could possibly require new springs.

At 180, your right in the freakin sweet spot and should be able to terrorize on a S
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your making me want to do a track day before my spine can handle it dude.:D
 
outhouse said:
Just more progressive linkage


Im happy with F and I ride some rough pavement. But my butt is off the seat when I see the real rough stuff coming up. P helps a hair
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Awesome cause philly roads suck bad. But i usually avoid the really bad ones.
 
b9009b said:
I ride semi hard on the street (including my strada) and when i could do track days i rode really hard. I weigh 180lbs. is that too much for the ohlins on the s?
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Unless you like building bikes yourself, get the S. You'll be very happy. It looks really nice! :)
 
outhouse said:
Dont assume.


There is a reason they went BPF and not marsuckies, in a year I have seen countless failures in rebound its not funny, some guys on their 3 and 4rth set.


Suspension makes or breaks the bike, why go cheap when your buying one bad azz piece of machinery.
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Marzocchi's are pure .... on my bike, 4th set, still no rebound adjustment, hard rock, no feel or road feed back, base is a top bike if you get rid of them and others will also say like I have get rid of the sach shock to.
 
You want the S. You want the LCD dash and led headlights.
It has lots of nice features and you won't need to do much to it.
 
I prefer the base.
Some of us would rather roll our own than go with what Ducati considers an upgrade.

The Marzocchis are fine, The Sachs on the rear can fade when you push it hard but $1200 on a Penske solves that issue.
I don't need the silliness of "electronic suspension adjustment". Just more stuff to go bad and I can setup my own suspension - I certainly don't need a computer to click the settings for me.
The "no ABS" option only available on early 2012 base models (which I have so that problem solved).
As for wheels...if I feel the need to upgrade I can take the $5k saved and get a hell of a lot better than what comes on the "S".

Don't discount the advantages a base can offer. As I said some of us prefer a blank canvas to paint on (so to speak).

Base is Best. ;)
 
I agree with Charliem90, JeffD and others that the Base is the better or the two ( S vs Base). Get the base, upgrade the suspension with Bitubo, I did, then get some good after market wheels. that equals better bike for less than an S. I dont ride on the street, so the LED .... is something I dont need. But, if you want that, JeffD upgraded his base lights with aftermarkets LEDS for less than what the S lights cost.
 
Charliem90 said:
I prefer the base.
Some of us would rather roll our own than go with what Ducati considers an upgrade.

The Marzocchis are fine, The Sachs on the rear can fade when you push it hard but $1200 on a Penske solves that issue.
I don't need the silliness of "electronic suspension adjustment". Just more stuff to go bad and I can setup my own suspension - I certainly don't need a computer to click the settings for me.
The "no ABS" option only available on early 2012 base models (which I have so that problem solved).
As for wheels...if I feel the need to upgrade I can take the $5k saved and get a hell of a lot better than what comes on the "S".

Don't discount the advantages a base can offer. As I said some of us prefer a blank canvas to paint on (so to speak).

Base is Best. ;)
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Thats sounds logical but i dont know how to do any of that .... to a bike. Even paying a dealer to install better suspension etc. It would still be cheaper than the S from a base model?
 
Ok then get the S and stop worrying ... $ doesn't seem to be the determining factor anyway, so why the hassle ;) ?

I have my settings stuck at one level but I find myself playing with the suspension modes on my car all the time, not sure if I did that on a bike though. I want consistent feedback and ride the bike I know, without parameters changing...

If something needs to be adjusted, it won't be too far off where I'm at right now, so no biggie.
 
Phl. Thats what i want but i dont want to get something im gonna have to put suspension money into. I know im gonna put the akra exhaust on it. But i want to be out the door suspension good to go until i get light years better at tracking it. Like i said in the op, i havent rode a superbike since my 07 r1 when i got hurt. Lots has changed.
 
b9009b said:
Thats sounds logical but i dont know how to do any of that .... to a bike. Even paying a dealer to install better suspension etc. It would still be cheaper than the S from a base model?
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You're gonna learn. Ducati has been making bike owners into master techs since 1994. Just grab the track stands and tools now. It's inevitable.

But no, the labor involved will make it about the same cost. It's easy swapping forks and shocks. At least after your dealer does the 1st tire change. Wheel bolts are on tight from the factory. You'll have the hang of tire changes, suspension removal, and safety wire drilling in no time.:D

I don't regret the S at all. Best bike I've ever ridden. Best thing with a license plate I've ever ridden/driven. It's was only $4000 more for me. Worth it. If I ever Ebay the Ohlins parts, they're worth a bit more still.

Also the black model you mentioned. Needs to be cleaned with furniture polish, not waxed. Matte finishes polish down eventually and look worn. it's a PITA. But any hard ridden bike is going to need paint every 5 years or so.
 
Buliwyf safety wiring and drilling is easy. I worked on helicopters in the army. So time to break out the tool kits and dust them off. And i hate hearing that about the matte black. Guess ill grab a red one.
 
So you can handle bike maintenance and repairs easy. No worries then. Just a matter of tools.

Matte black is already too popular anyways. The red stands out. It's obviously not a cheap shade of red and catches looks everywhere I go.

Also the Ohlins fork on the S can be upgraded further with a cartridge kit. The base is usually a complete fork set. Same with the rear I think. But there's badarse shocks available for either model.
 

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