Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread

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interesting, Im wondering how two rotors made by the same mfg with the disc itself being the same material and the thickness 6mm and diameter 330mm being the same that one rotor has that much of a noticeable thermodynamic advantage over the other. The only difference it the carrier arrangement. I have a set of the stock rotors, bran new take offs and a set of 330Ts on a spare front wheel. Fun project. Im going to do some side by sides while the world is down. Thanks for the info

 

[BMW Alpina]

I have experience having t drive
My z04 brake pads are just so much better modulation on this then stock rotor.
Most importantly. Heat dissipation
Good choice sir!!!
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Thanks TsaiCo

interesting, Im wondering how two rotors made by the same mfg with the disc itself being the same material and the thickness 6mm and diameter 330mm being the same that one rotor has that much of a noticeable thermodynamic advantage over the other. The only difference it the carrier arrangement. I have a set of the stock rotors, bran new take offs and a set of 330Ts on a spare front wheel. Fun project. Im going to do some side by sides while the world is down. Thanks for the info

The rotors itself should have the same heat capacity being same mass, same material and same shape, however...

My feeling, this better performance is the result caused by the T-Drive mechanism that have more "free play/floating" than available with the conventional system, allowing the rotor to have better, flatter (and faster reaction) contact with more surfaces of the brake pads once the brake pads clamp on it, and also faster "release" (creating better modulation) from the brake pads surface once the brake lever is release which also allow for faster heat dissipation, since that area is now free from contact with the hotter (non rotating and less air flow passing) brake pads

But I also read many comment that this "extra free play/floating" cause the T-Drive rotors to be very noisy (almost like it is falling apart) during normal drive, luckily I will not have this problem

 

[TsaiCo]

Through T drive designed, dissipate more heat


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[TsaiCo]

Thanks TsaiCo




The rotors itself should have the same heat capacity being same mass, same material and same shape, however...

My feeling, this better performance is the result caused by the T-Drive mechanism that have more "free play/floating" than available with the conventional system, allowing the rotor to have better, flatter (and faster reaction) contact with more surfaces of the brake pads once the brake pads clamp on it, and also faster "release" (creating better modulation) from the brake pads surface once the brake lever is release which also allow for faster heat dissipation, since that area is now free from contact with the hotter (non rotating and less air flow passing) brake pads

But I also read many comment that this "free play/floating) cause the rotors to be very noisy (almost like it is falling apart) during normal drive, luckily I will not have this problem

Yup, I do like the noise thou


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Well yes the advantage is a lower drag rotor as well just was a little funny on the thermal aspect and yes my T drives are a little rattily especially now being 4 years old but they aren’t as bad as my Braketech Iron rotors and they are much more recent. The aluminum buttons seem to wear a lot despite the drive system. Anyhow enjoy the build, ill stop crashing the thread.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

interesting, Im wondering how two rotors made by the same mfg with the disc itself being the same material and the thickness 6mm and diameter 330mm being the same that one rotor has that much of a noticeable thermodynamic advantage over the other. The only difference it the carrier arrangement. I have a set of the stock rotors, bran new take offs and a set of 330Ts on a spare front wheel. Fun project. Im going to do some side by sides while the world is down. Thanks for the info

When I was racing a HP4 we had to use stock rotors due to the regulations, when the rules changed I fitted a set of Brembo disc's floating button type and There was a noticeable improvement, I don't know why, everything else was the same, it actually got to the point of going back to stock rotors because jumping from one to the other made it difficult to adjust.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Thanks TsaiCo




The rotors itself should have the same heat capacity being same mass, same material and same shape, however...

My feeling, this better performance is the result caused by the T-Drive mechanism that have more "free play/floating" than available with the conventional system, allowing the rotor to have better, flatter (and faster reaction) contact with more surfaces of the brake pads once the brake pads clamp on it, and also faster "release" (creating better modulation) from the brake pads surface once the brake lever is release which also allow for faster heat dissipation, since that area is now free from contact with the hotter (non rotating and less air flow passing) brake pads

But I also read many comment that this "extra free play/floating" cause the T-Drive rotors to be very noisy (almost like it is falling apart) during normal drive, luckily I will not have this problem

I really like what you have done with your motorcycle, I love modifying bikes, I've pretty much done it most of my life, I started making parts when I was a lot younger because I had no choice I was racing but had very little money, now I do a bit of both, if I can buy something that looks and works then I will otherwise I will make it. Keep up the good work.

 

[bradp51]

Thanks TsaiCo




The rotors itself should have the same heat capacity being same mass, same material and same shape, however...

My feeling, this better performance is the result caused by the T-Drive mechanism that have more "free play/floating" than available with the conventional system, allowing the rotor to have better, flatter (and faster reaction) contact with more surfaces of the brake pads once the brake pads clamp on it, and also faster "release" (creating better modulation) from the brake pads surface once the brake lever is release which also allow for faster heat dissipation, since that area is now free from contact with the hotter (non rotating and less air flow passing) brake pads

But I also read many comment that this "extra free play/floating" cause the T-Drive rotors to be very noisy (almost like it is falling apart) during normal drive, luckily I will not have this problem

Funny you mention the noise they create. My friend who had them mentioned that also. He had them on an ST4.

 

[bradp51]

What's that top triple cost for the 1199 n how much more for the laser marking?

348 Euros
Here is a link

TOP FORK BRIDGE FOR 899-959-1199-1299 Panigale - Melotti Racing

Designed for the last twin-cylinder Superbike of Borgo Panigale, this component boasts a perfect union between technology and design. CNC machined, made from an Aluminium alloy (Anticorodal) solid, allow a weight saving of 80 grams. Retaining a great rigidity in the braking phase, and thanks to...

www.melottiracing.com

 

[Paul G]

You have no idea how many people want you to ride this bike

 

[BMW Alpina]

I really like what you have done with your motorcycle, I love modifying bikes, I've pretty much done it most of my life, I started making parts when I was a lot younger because I had no choice I was racing but had very little money, now I do a bit of both, if I can buy something that looks and works then I will otherwise I will make it. Keep up the good work.

Thank You Bruce Wayne

I have a little update with more parts coming this past few days:

Ducati by Rizoma oil filler cap, my choice is either Black or Red, Black would blend it, but my eyes would not "feel the difference", so I choose RED, this way, my eyes can justify the expense



I feel bad that the left/CLUTCH side did not have any lever protector, and since Ducati by Rizoma line does not offer left side protector, I decide to purchase the closed available, which is the Rizoma ProGuard.
I will further modify this Rizoma ProGuard with a "DUCATI" lettering to make it looks similar to the right brake lever guard from Ducati by Rizoma. I also plan to paint one of the ring on the handlebar weight "RED ANODIZED" to match the Ducati by Rizoma red ring anodizing. But I will do this after my Ducati by Rizoma right brake lever protector arrived. (my bike came with the Ducati by Rizoma brake lever protector but it have a minor blemished, so I sold it to a forum member and buying a replacement new one, hopefully this new replacement will not have any blemishes):



My Melotti Racing Upper Triple Clamp/Top Fork Bridge arrived a few days ago, along with Melotti racing special tool for Ohlins fork and steering stem nut... I don't think I will ever use this 2 tools, but just in case,
and they are also good for the display case that I plan for my other parts and helmets/driving gear.




More ProTi bolts arrived, this is my 3rd phase of ProTi bolts purchase (still 2 more phase before I completely purchase all the ProTi bolts kit offered for Panigale V4, need to buy in phases since I want to test fit the color,
and some bolts, is custom length due to my modifications). Also, please take a look at the right picture, that is ProTi banjo bolts, they are VERY NICE




Little update continue below:

 

[BMW Alpina]

Purchase some driving gears that I plan to use as a "Display Only" and will be displayed alongside all the original Ducati parts that I remove from my bike (and the special tools). My favorite is the Ducati Corse V3 Helmet


I also purchase all the inner protector with this jacket, might come handy if there is an "unwelcome guess"



Replace the reservoir plastic cap with AEM aluminum one,... this is hidden, but it was cheap and I need to meet the minimum $ amount for free shipping from Belissimoto so


And finally a good story with a Ducati Carpet.
So I found a very nice looking Ducati Carpet back in January, this is when I just put a deposit on my bike and have not take delivery of the bike yet. However, the seller never ship the carpet, and when I try to follow up,
the seller only answer once and never response again. Plus the seller website keep either "crashing down", "unavailable", or change to a new website address... The right hint that I was being scammed.
I complain to PayPal, and amazingly, the seller never respond to PayPal thus PayPal decide to fully refund my purchase at end of February.
Suddenly I received an email from the seller, showing "a small packet" item with tracking number had been ship through China post office and the seller ask for me to pay directly now.
I am skeptical and decide NOT to pay until the item arrived. For the next 2 months, the tracking number show the item never moved from that China post office, and since my carpet is LARGE size, there is no way it was being shipped as small packet item...
Until... today out of the blue, the packet (LARGE SIZE) arrived at my front door. I tried to use the tracking number and because it was so old, the record only show the packet arrived at my house without even showing any history of the Chinese post office or the journey story at all...
Now I felt really bad, and desperately trying to contact the seller so I can pay him. Problem is the website that I purchased from no longer exist... I send an email to his PayPal email address, hopefully he saw my email and confirm that his paypal account is still active so I can pay him.

The carpet on the other hand is GORGEOUS !!! I will use this under the Foggy capet (if possible since it might be too thick with my own living room carpet and make the bike unstable):

 

[BMW Alpina]

Another small step for a strugling Ducatisti :

STM Timing Cover and Rizoma rear reflector arrived:


Before and After STM (note, I will replace the current screw with ProTi screws):



Test fitting all the bracket and spacer/washer and bolts that I will use to mount this Rizoma Clutch Reservoir as Rear Brake Reservoir, now, just need to buy the ProTi bolts with proper length and I can install it (which means 2 months away).
Note, I am using original Rizoma own mirror bracket with slight "improvisation" to become the bracket for this Rizoma Rear Brake Reservoir



Another type of Rizoma mirror bracket arrived and I will use this to hold the Front Rizoma Brake and Clutch Reservoir (with more bracket improvisation coming soon):


Test fit with the BSD switch and utilizing spacers and washers (I alraeady order proper spacer in black anodized color so no need for those stacks of washers):


continued below:

 

[BMW Alpina]

And final update for today:

Titanium bolts arrived from Germany for the front carbon fiber ignition switch cover, although this is just "bridging" modification since I have a nicer plan in the near future:

 

[DucatiKev]

carbon fiber ignition switch cover

I love your CF ignition switch cover

 

[BMW Alpina]

I love your CF ignition switch cover

Thanks DucatiKev,
I purchased it from Peter Lieb:
Carbon Zündschloss - Abdeckung Panigale V4 R / Anniversario

 

[Jake]

Very nice touches!!! great job

 

[BMW Alpina]

Very nice touches!!! great job

Thanks so much Jake,
By the way, I also received this Akrapovic and Ducati Performance stickers which I plan to attached to the Peter Lieb's Carbon Fiber parts, but of course there will be some customization involve and not just attaching sticker.
I will post here when it is finished... maybe... next month.
Here are the Akrapovic stickers, (I will not put them all, just one set of logo and wording)

 

[BMW Alpina]

The painter that is working on my tail fairings just email me this pictures below...
She applied maybe 5 or 6 clear coats on top of the Ducati factory clear coat for the area with red paint still visible.
(Originally we planned for just 3 clear coats) to make sure we cannot fell the edges of the stickers (white background and #1 stickers) that is why it is so shiny and deep,
and she still plan to sand it down and polish it some more today... so it is going to be even shinier...
Now, I am afraid for the worse case scenario, where I have to clear coat my entire bike just to match the tail deep shiny finished...

 

[DucatiKev]

One big step closer to paint correction & super slick coating