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Unless I'm mistaken only the version with the tweaked DQS code has been released. Is your file identified with DQS in any way ? Mine has the normal file name but I believe it to be the tweaked version. Are you not happy with it ?
I'd prolly like to try both a bit before deciding too...
 
Pouakai said:
Unless I'm mistaken only the version with the tweaked DQS code has been released. Is your file identified with DQS in any way ? Mine has the normal file name but I believe it to be the tweaked version. Are you not happy with it ?
I'd prolly like to try both a bit before deciding too...
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Yes, it's the file from Hugepiece with the adjusted DQS settings. I've tried the DQS a few times now, if I was just riding on the track then I'd probably be happy but for me it's just a bit too focused for the road. I'm sure the standard cruise & tune file must be around, just frustrating not to be readily available. It's a great product, with an up to date website for downloads and better email support it would be awesome.

Anyway I've a trip coming up around Europe in a few weeks so if anyone does receive the file before then i'd appreciate a heads up. Has anyone heard from TB recently? I've emailed (politely) a couple of times over the last few weeks with no response.
 
Had a reply from Tuneboy today. Have the latest 0206 Tune and Cruise file (V3) also the latest Tuneboy Trim program. Only difference I can see is that under 'config options' you can adjust the DQS kill time, just what I was after.

PM me if you want a copy, might be a slight delay as away for the weekend.
 
i got the bike on the dyno today with the cruise and tune V3 file:

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so far, the fueling is out of range. want to change that. (no wideband / controller here)


question: has anyone got the "Live TuneBoy map" to apply the trim software? i can't find any in my files.
 
Not quite sure what you mean "live Tuneboy Map"
If you dont have the wideband sensors then you will need to use clip on exhaust sensors from your dyno operator and adjust the fuelling in each cell with the Tuneboy trim program until you see the desired AFR on his equipment, then when you are satisfied flash the result to the ecu with the Tuneboy trim program.
P
 
Hi Phil,

The V3 cruise and tune file I sent is effectively the standard Ducati map, plus the Tuneboy CC and other goodies. To improve the fuelling you need to apply the trim file to the ECU as well. There should have been one included with the initial download, it ends .trm. Is that what you were after?

The one supplied by Tuneboy at present I believe is for the standard bike and only tuned to 40% throttle as the bike was not yet run in. Tuneboy are planning to get a bike back in at some point to supply a complete trim map but it seems to have been put on the back burner for now. I've found a UK tuner who is familiar with the Pani and Tuneboy, if nothing is available in the next month then I'll probably take the bike to him and get a custom trim for my bike. If I do then I'll make it available to everyone.

Phil said:
i got the bike on the dyno today with the cruise and tune V3 file:

IMG_20130907_122532_600.jpg



so far, the fueling is out of range. want to change that. (no wideband / controller here)


question: has anyone got the "Live TuneBoy map" to apply the trim software? i can't find any in my files.
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Yes. I am looking for the .trm file.

There was a significant diff between 206 and V3 though...
Will comment more later today. Heading off to the lake...
 
Pouakai said:
Not quite sure what you mean "live Tuneboy Map"
If you dont have the wideband sensors then you will need to use clip on exhaust sensors from your dyno operator and adjust the fuelling in each cell with the Tuneboy trim program until you see the desired AFR on his equipment, then when you are satisfied flash the result to the ecu with the Tuneboy trim program.
P
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I am totally agree with you. Certain 2 facts on this page are unequivocally the best we have all had. You are 100% good here that If you do not have the wideband sensors then you will need to use clip on exhaust sensors from your dyno operator.
 
Axel8100 said:
I am totally agree with you. Certain 2 facts on this page are unequivocally the best we have all had. You are 100% good here that If you do not have the wideband sensors then you will need to use clip on exhaust sensors from your dyno operator.
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but anyway, i am going to need the *.trm file for being able to run the program, right? i will need to see what interface the dyno tuner can provide...
 
No you don't NEED a trim file if you are on a Dyno. A trm file is basically just the result of someone else's dyno tuning. If you are doing your own you're better off starting from a clean slate.
 
okay, school me on the procedure then. i went though the "live tune edit" manual, but this seems to be an older version and not suitable for the 1199.

i need to know what i can do with the / how to operate the tuneBoy trim software...

connect the hardware, and then fro example run the software (setting to 0-5V lambda controller) and do a roll on? connected via wifi and laptop running in the backpack?

i really see the potential of all this, but i refuse to do a trial and error ...

why is there no manual on this???

anyone has a step by step procedure?

thanks for your help.
 
Yes TuneboyTrim is the program you will use not TuneEdit. Your laptop will on the bench at your Dyno facility not in your backpack.
It will be best if your Dyno operator has used Tuneboy before if not then they will need to spend some time with the manual up front. The manual does exist and does contain step by step instructions and I have in the previous thread linked the download URL (I'll try to find a reference but you may search it just as quick)
I don't recall if it was in the software I was delivered or was linked in the welcome email.
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Edit - sorry just seen you're going to tune on the dyno! Ignore the .trm file I've sent.

To confirm the V3 was definitely based on the latest (0206) Ducati software, I double checked today. If anyone else wants the latest Cruise & Tune file and Tuneboy Trim program I think it'll be at the link below.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_LfDHVJheQ0ZGl1UV9TN2VKOUE/edit?usp=sharing
 
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The latest TB Trim program allows you to adjust the DQS kill time under 'config options'. The range of adjustment is 0-32. 0 is Std, 32 is the shortest kill time and offers the 'quickest' shift. I've set mine to 12 for now.
 
Hi Flipper, depends what you want really. Tuneboy gives you the option of reflashing the ECU which opens up various options. The current TB software allows you to:

- adjust the fuelling and ignition
- have the ECU give you cruise control
- adjust the DQS kill time
- have the engine fan cut in earlier
- reset the service indicator

Possibly others I've missed or forgotten about. Upsides for me are CC, ability to return ECU to standard, cheaper insurance (have to declare aftermarket piggyback unit) and of course increased performance.

At present there isn't a range of trim files (maps) available for the Panigale or for different configurations (aftermarket exhaust etc). The one file that is available is for a standard bike tuned to 40% throttle. It's an improvement but many of us are waiting for a full trim file. Tuneboy was hoping to have this available back in July but its still not available.

If you're just looking for performance and don't want to wait get a piggyback unit (PCV, Rapidbike, etc). If you're happy to wait then I'd certainly consider Tuneboy, it's cheaper too.
 
SPJ said:
Hi Flipper, depends what you want really. Tuneboy gives you the option of reflashing the ECU which opens up various options. The current TB software allows you to:

- adjust the fuelling and ignition
- have the ECU give you cruise control
- adjust the DQS kill time
- have the engine fan cut in earlier
- reset the service indicator

Possibly others I've missed or forgotten about. Upsides for me are CC, ability to return ECU to standard, cheaper insurance (have to declare aftermarket piggyback unit) and of course increased performance.

At present there isn't a range of trim files (maps) available for the Panigale or for different configurations (aftermarket exhaust etc). The one file that is available is for a standard bike tuned to 40% throttle. It's an improvement but many of us are waiting for a full trim file. Tuneboy was hoping to have this available back in July but its still not available.

If you're just looking for performance and don't want to wait get a piggyback unit (PCV, Rapidbike, etc). If you're happy to wait then I'd certainly consider Tuneboy, it's cheaper too.
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Excellent point regarding the insurance, it hadn't even crossed my mind, but huge advantage there alone.:eek:

I'm just looking to improve the lower/mid end of the torque curve and get rid of the "fluffy" part throttle response. The dyno center I used to use (and trust) has gone. So I was wondering, as I can't do a custom map, is it possible to load maps from others (seems like a decent bunch of guy's here, would be willing to share their results when available) and hopefully get an improvement, similar to the PCV etc. I'm not really interested in big numbers, just the lower to upper mid range areas mostly used, the top is fine as is.

So you have answered my question regarding that. It's real world road improvements and not Pub improvements I'm looking at :D
Thanks again SP that's what I was looking to confirm. 40% will do to start with, so TB it is then :) All I need now is the moolah to pay for it...:(
 
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wmcdonal said:
Here is a link to the standard V0206 tune and latest FlashMitsubishi program
Please use the new FlashMitsubishi program included in the zip.

I will try to have the modified version with Cruise Control and tuning added here soon.

The problem with turning cruise control on can be a number of things.
1. Three seconds is a long time, try holding the button longer.
2. The throttle blip will not happen if the brakes are on, clutch pulled or bike moving. Many people sit on the bike with a finger on the front brake (to stop it moving) and wonder why the throttle blip does not happen.
Start the bike on sidestand and hold the start button for a long time.
3. If this does not result in a blip you should check that your brake light switch is not causing the brake to appear to be on all the time, look at your brake light and make sure it goes on when you pull the brakes.
I had one bike on the dyno that had rearsets, he had the rear brake light switch tied out of the way, this resulted in the brake light on all the time and no cruise control...
The CruisePreFlight program is included to allow you to check that the clutch and brake functions are being seen correctly.
I would love to see a post here telling us what the reason was for the failure to turn on the Cruise control.
If it was a problem with the Tune file it would be a problem for everyone not one or two bikes.
So often people complain on a forum and never add an update when the problem is worked out.

Over the last week I have been testing a Panigale with the latest version of the CruiseAndTuning map (based on V0206) and did not have any problems with the idle.
I did notice that the EBC value can make the ECU hold some throttle on when you back off the throttle.

The documentation is installed on the desktop, if you have a cluttered desktop you may not be seeing it.

I assume the bikes talked about here are 1199 not 1199R models, the map is different for the 1199R.

When you flash the ECU using the TuneBoy software the last flash date and the last dealer code are unchanged, this means your dealer will not know that you have flashed the ECU unless you tell them.
Hint: Don't tell them...

The new version of the tune files will support a strain gauge shifter, this will allow reverse pattern shifting and down shift blipper, it also speeds up the kill time as the long kill time is a complaint with the standard DQS.
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I am having difficulty with my Tuneboy. For starters, the links to our version (1199) and any manuals, are all broken on the site.
 
What kind of trouble are you having ? Most things have been traversed by the inmates here before. The link above is good and there are several other good links in this and the other Tuneboy threads. I'm sure your probably right about the website though - it's not kept current with any great impetus.
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