Results After TuneBoy Installs

Stw said:

Anybody happy with TB??

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I'm just shy of happy with it, but for price vs features it's the ONLY option that I would consider. It's just not quite fully delivering on the promise yet. But I keep my fingers crossed and I have no particular hurry so can afford to be fairly patient for things like updates and iPhone apps which I expected would be available by now.

Wayne @Tuneboy - do you have any updates for us on a new tune and trim file we can apply and test?

I emailed a few days ago. Nothing as yet. I couldn't care less about the app but the trim file really ought to be available by now.

Notec said:

Has anyone had a warranty voided on a Pani yet? How about a 1098 or 1198? I have not heard of this happening. Maybe I haven't searched enough but seems like it's a rarity.

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you won't know untill you call it in .. that is when the dealer has to check with Ducati and he will tell you what they tell him.. don't expect any trouble changing a light bulb... blowing your engine however will be different...

literally just received a response from TuneBoy, they have sent me a new cruise_and_tune file to try. Will try and get it uploaded later and report back with progress.

Is that for the Termi slip ons?

SPJ said:

Is that for the Termi slip ons?

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They know that I am running standard exhaust, but I thought that the tune files were the same for all exhausts - but the trim files are what differ - but I could be wrong so will let someone else chime in to confirm.

OK GREAT news - I ran the bike with first the new tune and then with the originally supplied tune and the bike runs GREAT.!!!!!!

Pulls much better at the bottom end and far smoother off the line and around town, and the front lifts with only the slightest provocation - so must have got some more torque back at the bottom.

Cruise came on and worked each time with no problems too, didnt get the nudge up and down to work, but not sure if that needs the addon buttons.

You are correct: tune files are the same for all bikes and present initially the factory maps.
Even the trim files may be applicable to different exhaust systems on the basis that they suffer from the same deficiencies. I've had some good results applying a standard trim with my slips.

Hugepiece said:

OK GREAT news - I ran the bike with first the new tune and then with the originally supplied tune and the bike runs GREAT.!!!!!!

Pulls much better at the bottom end and far smoother off the line and around town, and the front lifts with only the slightest provocation - so must have got some more torque back at the bottom.

Cruise came on and worked each time with no problems too, didnt get the nudge up and down to work, but not sure if that needs the addon buttons.

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Cool I look forward to it. File emailed to you or downloaded from the usual spot ?

still haven't installed mine

Pouakai said:

Cool I look forward to it. File emailed to you or downloaded from the usual spot ?

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yep, mailed to me today by Wayne/Emma happy to mail over if you PM your email

Venomous said:

still haven't installed mine

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+1

Ok, read all the material, downloaded the latest software and re-flashed the ECU tonight with no real issues, hoping to test Tuesday. It has however raised a few points/questions.

My (limited!) understanding then is Tuneboy provides the 'tune' files which are identical to the Ducati ones but with additional options added (cruise control, tuning options, reset of service light & cooling fan). On top of of this you can then add the 'trim' files which are effectively the map (fuel/ign etc) for your own specific bike & configuration.

Hugepiece - thx for the updated 'Tune' you forwarded. I'm assuming that this is just based on the recent Ducati update (0206?) and so the bike should run identically to before, bar the cruise control etc?

Pouakai - how do you load the trim files into the ECU memory for a single key on cycle. I'm guessing any changes flashed to the ECU from the 'FlashMitsubishi' program are made permanently and temporary changes are made through the 'Tuneboy Trim' program?

I ran the 'CruisePreFlight' program to check the clutch/brake lever registered for deactivating cruise control. The clutch lever value changed (from 0 to 1) however applying either brake didn't change the value (1). I haven't changed the rear sets or the front brake, the brake light activates normally. Has anyone else come across this? When the controller is plugged into the bike it disrupts the can line system. Could this be the reason I'm not getting the value to change?

I wasn't prompted to enter a password for the WB-01 box, I'm guessing this is only an issue if you're leaving it on the bike and connecting via wifi?

Finally I remember reading someone couldn't get the menu up/down buttons to work. You can adjust it by entering the Tuneboy Trim program, going to tools/config options.

Hey SPJ,

Sounds like you have a good handle on things, glad its going well for you so far. For a temporary map/trim load you can load the trim file in Tuneboy Trim then connect to the ECU and it will ask if you wish to replace the ECU data - say yes.
Or if connected already a trim file will automatically be transfer when opened in TBT.

I didn't have any trouble with preflight.
I have noticed occasional can errors with the interface connected mostly though when procedures have got out of sync.

Pouakai - thanks, I'll try that with the standard trim file provided and see how it goes. I had a reply from Emma, she hopes that the trim files for other exhaust configurations won't be much longer, I guess they are just busy right now.

I think it's quite likely things were out of sync and the can line error was disrupting the input. I'll try again post ride.

Also under 'config options' there is a option 'blip', it's not selected on my trim map. I'm assuming this is the throttle blip to show cruise control is activated. It could be why some people don't think CC is working when it actually is.

I have a 2012 base with stock exhaust. I've installed my TB and flashed with the "Panigale_CruiseAndTune_Tune" and loaded the trim file "PanigaleSTDTo40".

The test run proved to be very promising until I noticed this funny occurence, at less than 6000rpm and a good handfull of throttle let's say 80-100% (gears 3-6 tested) the bike just does not want to go it struggles (bike alsmost stalls) until I reduce the throttle or gear down and move through to about 6500rpm. I know it is a bit of lazy riding doing this, but never noticed it prior to the TB download. Has anyone else experienced this?

Some further impressions post install/ride.

1) Cruise Control - impressive! As others have stated slightly awkward to engage once underway.
2) WB-01 password is set by entering a value in the box in the bottom RH corner of the FlashMitsubishi program. Until you do this TuneboyTrim program will not find the bike.
3) The blip and nudge up/down buttons were not initially activated in the trim file. After selecting them, saving as a new file and then flashing it to the ECU they work fine.
4) As expected cooling fan cuts in around 103 deg on first cycle, around 92 deg thereafter.
5) The map TB sent to Hugepiece has shortened DQS shift changes. Probably ideal for the track but felt a bit harsh to me for road use.
6) The 40% trim map provided felt slightly better (smoother) initially, otherwise not much difference.
7) The CruisePreFlight program still shows a value of 1 for the front & rear brake regardless of lever positions, the CC activates as it should and deactivates normally with either brake or the clutch.

Generally happy with the functions/software that TB have provided. I think most people have purchased TB though primarily for the trim files that they said would be forth coming, hopefully this won't be much longer.

One last thing, I've debated whether to post this or not but I'll throw it out there anyway... I contacted a UK tuning centre who used to deal with Tuneboy to find out if they would tune the bike should a trim file not be forth coming. Slightly worryingly he suggested that he wouldn't use TB and that they no longer deal with them. His advice was to PCV it & that if anything went wrong you could remove the unit. Hmmm! From the conversation I don't believe they had any experience of TB with the Panigale & I imagine there's been a dispute somewhere in the past. I think his reasoning for the PCV was that they my be able to spot any ECU changes. It should also be noted that they sell PCV's...

SPG, did you flash the 0206 Cruise program? I received the 0206 program from Hugepiece, flashed my Tri as usual, and everything works fine EXCEPT the DQS. I even went to the extent of disabling the DQS and reapplying it on the bikes menu, but no change (it is impossible to shift w/o the clutch on steady throttle). With the 0205 program it operated correctly, but I wanted the correct 0206 program values. Also, where did you go in the program to find the fan temp settings? As I will shortly be adding the full Termi header pipes to my slip ons, have you heard anything about how Wayne's full system trim program is working out? Thanks in advance for the help.

I flashed the '206 cruise and trim' and find DQS to be working normally.
Re temperature: I don't think there are any settings in TBT. It just is.