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Well Wilkson apparently its really good and even improves the sound of the bike, not to mention lots of other great things.
Improves the EBC, is more snarly, and the bike wants to work with you now. I think Holy Grail is definitely appropriate.
Just have a read of the first post from "Brad"
It does indeed fix the erratic throttle actuation when riding over choppy/rough roads and helps one to ride smoother at any time.
It's especially nice upon setting up for the corner entry, mid corner throttle control and exit.
The bike now wants to work with you, instead of you having to second guess what the bike will do and be pre-emptive with inputs to compensate.
The bike also feels more powerful right through the rev range, and any perceived lack of power in the mid range is greatly reduced
The action of the EBC seems to be improved as well.
I'm not sure, but I think the bike is quite a bit louder and more snarly/throaty.
The tune is definitely different by a long way
This single update, is ground breaking stuff for the 1199
And a big leap forward
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I just want to be able to do really big stand up wheelies . Hope it sorts that issue .
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Thankyou
Have you got a bottle of 1959 Grange to help me celebrate?
They tell me there's plenty of them around down there.
Probably more than recently updated software on 1199's
Cheers Mate
Well Brad unless our American friends follow New South Wales politics they will not appreciate the joke. Must admit was shocked when the Premier of the state quits overnight over a bottle of wine. Looks like he got caught telling ......... And you know how we hate people that .........
Back on topic. I posted exactly what your mechanic told me when I called them. He confirmed you got an update, but his thought was that it was an older one. As I said before, it sounds like you are describing the update that came out in Sept 12. Thats when I got it and I noticed that the throttle definitely was smoother down low. I noticed it within 100 metres of leaving the dealer. But that was in September 2012.
Anyway, to see myself I am going to go and put my bike in for a check and ask if I can watch the process and see if anything updates. If you are correct I would be the first to post about it.
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If anyone had any doubt as to just how terrible the OEM upmap is in comparison to aftermarket programs (in this case the TuneBoy) have them no longer. I just received my Tricolore (complete with full-Termi, MWR hi efficiency air filter, and TuneBoy program) back from my dealer after they completed the 7500 mile service. During the servicing, the TuneBoy was erased from the ECU, and I must say it ran pretty darn terrible. Once I reloaded the TuneBoy (complete with trim program for the full-Termi), it ran beautifully again. The difference is not subtle. I realize the OEM full-Termi program has to deal with air pollution issues, and that the TuneBoy does not have that constraint. Nonetheless, the difference is very significant. I can't attest to overall power, just to rideability and general fueling characteristics. In summary, anyone with a Panigale fitted with a full-Termi would most likely benefit from looking into an aftermarket ECU system.
Brad P51,
I wish you well in your quest
I would be very surprised indeed, to find you didn't get the update.
Like I said, I've already got the update from late 2012, and the one after that in early 2013.
I think the information I have thus provided in this thread(and another) to that effect, would be more than sufficient to allay any ongoing doubts in that regard, for any reasonable minded recipient to be satisfied, without the need to keep reiterating the information in order for it to sink in.
Sadly thus far it hasn't been the case.
I wasn't going to mention it, and let it slide.
But seeing as you've brought it up again, regarding the outcome of your contact with my dealer.
You made the strong suggestion in your PM that you sent me, that it was your intent to contact my dealer by telephone, and check up on me like I am some naughty school kid that was suspected of telling lies.
You asserted in your PM, that you were intending to call the dealer regarding the scope of work that was performed on my bike, and ascertain a factual account in order to establish the veracity of the information in my post.
In my reply, I believe I suggested to you it was not a necessity(in the nicest possible way). And continued(in good faith) to participate in informative dialogue with you on the matter.
You obviously proceeded regardless in your blind "pursuit of the truth".
When you already had the truth.
Just so you know.
After you posted your "myth busting" thread in an attempt to be-bunk and discredit my well intentioned claims for the benefit of other forum members.
I called the Dealer Principal to apologise for any disruption to the normal flow of work in the w/shop caused by the pointless call you made to them.
He told me who actually took the call.
As it turns out.
The tech that answered your inquiry didn't even lay a hand on my bike on the day.
Although he's has been the only person up until that point in time, who has worked on my bike(other than myself).
The good fellow was in fact, working on a Vespa all the time I was there, and wasn't involved in the process. At all.
He was only in the w/shop in the general vicinity.
He was minding his own business, on his own job, as the conscientious sort of person that he is.
It's a pity you didn't get to speak to the tech that "actually" did the recall work along with installing the update on my bike as I have previously reported.
He could've told you that it was titled "Fuel Injector Parameters"(or something to that effect), and that he'd never seen it before my bike came in. Let alone installed it on a bike up to that point in time.
As I've said in one of the earlier posts, he was more surprised about it than I was.
I personally was sort of expecting it, on the advise we all had received from another forum member a couple of weeks prior.
I was simply happy to be getting an update, and from the description of it at the time I felt the advise we had received from our friend on this good forum, it was possibly on the right path to help him solve an issue he was having with his bike.
I am glad that it turns out to be so.
Further to my apology to the dealer Principal.
The Dealer Principal graciously said not to worry about it, we get all sorts ringing up here for the strangest of reasons and issues.
I'm still a bit embarrassed about it regardless. And I feel as though I owe them one for being so tolerant.
And because they're a small dealership with limited human resources.
I understand how disruptions to the normal w/shop flow can unnecessarily eat away at their operation in the smallest of ways.
In taking your call the tech was taken out of the w/shop away from his duties.
If you've ever worked on other peoples bikes for a living as a tech.
You may have had it drummed into you, that disruptions are a recipe for making mistakes due to a break in train of thought.
I'm certain you wouldn't appreciate it if a tech had made a mistake or forgot something on your bike that led to parts coming loose or leaks etc, etc.
And you probably wouldn't care that his train of thought was compromised for any reason.
No matter how important the issue was to some caller, who was getting to the bottom of some matter and to establish the veracity of some well intentioned information, that was posted in good faith on the internet.
You see, as a customer.
You are prone to naturally think that your bike is the only bike in the world.
At least, that's what I was told when doing my apprenticeship.
And by extension, you want top level service at all times, with absolutely no errors in workmanship what so ever.
Especially given the amount you paid for it.
These DUCATI's don't come cheap you know
And did I mention you are also inclined to be the only customer as well?
To summarize.
Well mate, you ended up getting to speak to somebody who really couldn't help you any more than I could.
You have caused disruption to a legitimate commercial enterprise.
You also got some inaccurate verbal information(which I have corrected) from someone who didn't actually have anything to do with the process.
And then misinterpreted and regurgitated the information with your own spin on it to this forum.
IMO, your efforts so far have only been an instrument for causing unnecessary confusion, and muddied the waters to no advantage for anyone.
It's this forum community that is clearly poorer for it on a number of levels.
As I've said, I do sincerely hope you get the update for your benefit
Then you can enjoy your bike as much as the rest of us who have it.
If you already have it, then good for you Sir
I wish you well in your quest
I would be very surprised indeed, to find you didn't get the update.
Like I said, I've already got the update from late 2012, and the one after that in early 2013.
I think the information I have thus provided in this thread(and another) to that effect, would be more than sufficient to allay any ongoing doubts in that regard, for any reasonable minded recipient to be satisfied, without the need to keep reiterating the information in order for it to sink in.
Sadly thus far it hasn't been the case.
I wasn't going to mention it, and let it slide.
But seeing as you've brought it up again, regarding the outcome of your contact with my dealer.
You made the strong suggestion in your PM that you sent me, that it was your intent to contact my dealer by telephone, and check up on me like I am some naughty school kid that was suspected of telling lies.
You asserted in your PM, that you were intending to call the dealer regarding the scope of work that was performed on my bike, and ascertain a factual account in order to establish the veracity of the information in my post.
In my reply, I believe I suggested to you it was not a necessity(in the nicest possible way). And continued(in good faith) to participate in informative dialogue with you on the matter.
You obviously proceeded regardless in your blind "pursuit of the truth".
When you already had the truth.
Just so you know.
After you posted your "myth busting" thread in an attempt to be-bunk and discredit my well intentioned claims for the benefit of other forum members.
I called the Dealer Principal to apologise for any disruption to the normal flow of work in the w/shop caused by the pointless call you made to them.
He told me who actually took the call.
As it turns out.
The tech that answered your inquiry didn't even lay a hand on my bike on the day.
Although he's has been the only person up until that point in time, who has worked on my bike(other than myself).
The good fellow was in fact, working on a Vespa all the time I was there, and wasn't involved in the process. At all.
He was only in the w/shop in the general vicinity.
He was minding his own business, on his own job, as the conscientious sort of person that he is.
It's a pity you didn't get to speak to the tech that "actually" did the recall work along with installing the update on my bike as I have previously reported.
He could've told you that it was titled "Fuel Injector Parameters"(or something to that effect), and that he'd never seen it before my bike came in. Let alone installed it on a bike up to that point in time.
As I've said in one of the earlier posts, he was more surprised about it than I was.
I personally was sort of expecting it, on the advise we all had received from another forum member a couple of weeks prior.
I was simply happy to be getting an update, and from the description of it at the time I felt the advise we had received from our friend on this good forum, it was possibly on the right path to help him solve an issue he was having with his bike.
I am glad that it turns out to be so.
Further to my apology to the dealer Principal.
The Dealer Principal graciously said not to worry about it, we get all sorts ringing up here for the strangest of reasons and issues.
I'm still a bit embarrassed about it regardless. And I feel as though I owe them one for being so tolerant.
And because they're a small dealership with limited human resources.
I understand how disruptions to the normal w/shop flow can unnecessarily eat away at their operation in the smallest of ways.
In taking your call the tech was taken out of the w/shop away from his duties.
If you've ever worked on other peoples bikes for a living as a tech.
You may have had it drummed into you, that disruptions are a recipe for making mistakes due to a break in train of thought.
I'm certain you wouldn't appreciate it if a tech had made a mistake or forgot something on your bike that led to parts coming loose or leaks etc, etc.
And you probably wouldn't care that his train of thought was compromised for any reason.
No matter how important the issue was to some caller, who was getting to the bottom of some matter and to establish the veracity of some well intentioned information, that was posted in good faith on the internet.
You see, as a customer.
You are prone to naturally think that your bike is the only bike in the world.
At least, that's what I was told when doing my apprenticeship.
And by extension, you want top level service at all times, with absolutely no errors in workmanship what so ever.
Especially given the amount you paid for it.
These DUCATI's don't come cheap you know
And did I mention you are also inclined to be the only customer as well?
To summarize.
Well mate, you ended up getting to speak to somebody who really couldn't help you any more than I could.
You have caused disruption to a legitimate commercial enterprise.
You also got some inaccurate verbal information(which I have corrected) from someone who didn't actually have anything to do with the process.
And then misinterpreted and regurgitated the information with your own spin on it to this forum.
IMO, your efforts so far have only been an instrument for causing unnecessary confusion, and muddied the waters to no advantage for anyone.
It's this forum community that is clearly poorer for it on a number of levels.
As I've said, I do sincerely hope you get the update for your benefit
Then you can enjoy your bike as much as the rest of us who have it.
If you already have it, then good for you Sir
Thanks for that
What is the 0206 code?
What does it pertain to?
And when was that installed?
Can you please elaborate?
0206 was (i think the last ducati map update), it was released sometime mid last year if I remember correctly. The only reason I know the code ver is the TuneBoy tunes were until recently based upon the previous 0205 code, so was one step forwards and one step back. I am sure someone else may have more data and info on this.
I hope it all works out for you WAF
If it wasn't for you my bike wouldn't be what it is today
Cheers
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Agree with that. Although EBC seems still to be smooth on deceleration at first then bites hard around 3-5k rpm on the way down. A little surprising at first, but no big deal when you get used to it.
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Yikes. I only use 6th gear around 160mph.
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My bike was still problematic with the 0206 code (which was originally updated in November last year).
The key bit of information for me that the Ducati guy came up with was that there were settings within settings. It did not sound like it was just a matter of plugging it in and it updating.
I am going to have a go at tracking this dude down and talking to him again. His name was Craig McMartin.
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Sounds like the functions on the SL
With access to deeper levels in the menus.
I definitely don't have that.
Everything in that regard is still the same.
He described it as being in the setup not the bike dash menu.
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Maybe it's just me, but on the street I don't go pass 2nd gear and on the freeway not pass 3rd gear, and if i'm lucky i might see 4th gear. Maybe it's each person's riding style.
True enough.
I personally use all the gears.
After all, I paid for them so I'm going to get my monies worth
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