That is the MOST HP ive seen the latest bmw make by quite abit. I call ........ on that dyno. My fav comparison so far is 650ib, he's a street racer who has most of the latest bikes who isnt influenced or sponsored by any company to endorse their product. And he'll roll race all those bikes against each other on the street sooner or later for sure.
Let me know what you think. Explains their potential as well after showing each bikes air fuel ratio etc. The good news is theres quite abit left on these bikes..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otk28u9C9uc
I had a look at the new bmw today, its very nice.. Love the massive lcd dash.
I'd still pick the ducati though, a base model s1000rr looks like just another japanese litre bike imo. Cant believe the base model only comes in one color
Btw, whole heartedly agree on your statement, healthy competition forces EVERYONE to lift their game and make a better production vehicle/motorcycle. Which is great for the consumer.
First of all I have a V4S, so it's not like I don't like the Ducati. As far as that video, which I watched yesterday morning, I do have a few thoughts.
Regarding the Black and White bikes dyno of the new BMW S1000RR. They clearly state in the video they don't have experience with the BMWs. They also state it was hard for them to get a new one. I don't know why they'd have anything to gain with fudging the numbers, as it doesn't sound like they carry BMW bikes.
With regards to 650ib, he has sponsors and if you think he isn't influenced by them, you clearly haven't seen enough of his videos. The MotoMillion key fobs and hawking the ISSE drinks should be obvious. He's all about racing from a roll on the highway, which is irresponsible to say the least. He also modifies whatever he owns seemingly without any break in period. That said, here are my thoughts on the video, which I coincidentally watched yesterday before I posted.
First, all of the bikes tested had pipes and/or tunes and whatever else done to them, and with no rhyme or reason. I would have preferred to see baseline dyno runs of all the bikes, as the modifications made may have actually hurt the performance of the bikes. I'm addressing the bikes in order of horsepower, from the highest down.
The V4R makes the most power, but even they say that it doesn't really come alive until 12K rpms. It obviously has the race exhuast, a factory tune for the exhaust and aftermarket carbon rims.It also looks to have aftermarket sprockets, so no telling how the gearing affected the dyno results. Far from stock, yet it really didn't make that much more power. As outfitted, it is easily twice the price of any other bike in this 'competition'. Even with the lighter exhaust, wheels etc., it was still a pound heavier than the BMW. As mentioned in the video, there is more power to be made as the current tune is rich. Weight was 423 pounds.
The Aprillia is next. I think most of us have already seen the dyno comparison between it and the V4 (not V4R) and it clearly makes more power. This bike was tuned, and still within 4HP of the V4R and the BMW, despite the 100cc and tune advantage. The Aprilia was the heaviest bike here at 446 pounds.
The BMW is next. It has an exhuast, but doesn't look like a tune to go with it, given how lean it is in the midrange and rich in the higher rpms. It is bested only by the Aprillia, which has a 100cc advantage, and the V4R, which is akin to bringing a gun to a knife fight. As new as it is, I doubt it's long before it makes substantially more power. Like the V4R, there is more power to be made with a tune as this bike was running very rich up top. Weight was 422 pounds.
Next is the ZX10-RR. There are some engine and aero advantages the RR has over the R, at a much higher price. But this RR is stretched, probably geared as well, and no telling what else. The Kawasakis have always been known to have strong motors, especially up top, but it just goes to show how competitive the bike market is today. This was the lightest bike at 411 pounds.
Next up is a ZX10-R, at 1HP less than the RR, which shows that the RR probably has modifications that have taken away from the stock power it once had. Weight was 444 pounds, second heaviest.
Last was the R1M. Despite an exhuast, tune by the shop hosting the dyno and carbon rims, it was the least strong here. It was the second lightest bike here.
So, if money is no object the V4R is tough to beat for both power and weight. The Aprilia makes good power, but is heavy. The BMW is tough to beat for the money, making the second best numbers for true liter bikes, and being very light. The ZX10-RR is so modified it will only do one thing well, go fast in a straight line. The ZX10-R makes good power for the money but is heavy. The R1M comes in last for power, despite extensive modifications, and bang for buck isn't there given the competition. It is light, but without a serious refresh, isn't a bike I'd consider right now, and I own one.
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