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gnance said:
Is it just me or does anyone else kind of think the old s1000rr with the asymmetry was better looking than the new bike? Controversial to many, but I kind of liked it and it gave it character. The new BMW looks like any ol Japanese bike now. Great engine for sure great bang for the buck but aesthetically uninspired and kind of cheap looking.
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so the winking german grew on me... but the new look is nice until you get up to it and noticed the decals on the bike are just that, stickers and they peel up lol (the test M at cota this year had the decals just peeling off from the heat of the sun and also the riders kicking it while lifting their legs over), for their premier bike, its a bit cheaply made... but, kept cost down.

headlights are reminder of the CBR of yesteryears
 
lamb00j said:
lol ducati has never been the best bang for your buck. that would lead to Kawi, yamaha or suzuki, those bikes offer the best bang for your buck.

Ducati isnt for everyone, and its clearly not the best bike on the market, nor is the BMW, but its a great time to have options and be able to pick. I prefer the V4R, i love it. Its hot as hell, but it rids like a 600 and loves to keep pulling. I wouldnt trade it for anything. only thing i hear about the M is the brake fade and the stiff no padding seat (and the TPMS acting up). But these are first world problems to say the least lol
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I'll take little track brake fade and tpms problem vs. oil leaks that lead to fires and fuel leaks....Etc

Love my duc, but time to move onto something little less headache ish
 
lamb00j said:
so the winking german grew on me... but the new look is nice until you get up to it and noticed the decals on the bike are just that, stickers and they peel up lol (the test M at cota this year had the decals just peeling off from the heat of the sun and also the riders kicking it while lifting their legs over), for their premier bike, its a bit cheaply made... but, kept cost down.

headlights are reminder of the CBR of yesteryears
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this right here is the problem. i saw the bike in person and said to myself something is wrong here. things dont look polished. it may be the overall best package out there (bang for buck) but something is missing.

i wouldnt trade the hp4 for this even at an even swap nevermind add money for the new s1000rr. the carbon wheels are a great touch though
 
lamb00j said:
so the winking german grew on me... but the new look is nice until you get up to it and noticed the decals on the bike are just that, stickers and they peel up lol (the test M at cota this year had the decals just peeling off from the heat of the sun and also the riders kicking it while lifting their legs over), for their premier bike, its a bit cheaply made... but, kept cost down.

headlights are reminder of the CBR of yesteryears
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Take bodywork off and have a body shop clear coat.. $300.00 fix
 
tifosi1299 said:
Take bodywork off and have a body shop clear coat.. $300.00 fix
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You are correct. This would fix this silly dumb issue on their premier bike... but if they do this on such a cheap fix, that will make it monumentally better.. what else did they skimp on? Just makes you think.
 
gnance said:
Is it just me or does anyone else kind of think the old s1000rr with the asymmetry was better looking than the new bike? Controversial to many, but I kind of liked it and it gave it character. The new BMW looks like any ol Japanese bike now. Great engine for sure great bang for the buck but aesthetically uninspired and kind of cheap looking.

Honestly the hp4 is beautiful
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I'm the exact opposite. I hate the look of the older S1k generation with the bugeye, r6 tail, and vents on vents on vents on the sides. imo the new bike is waaaay better. fixed every issue i had with the old model. Excited to see guys start to mod them. When guys start doing them one solid color it will definitely look beautiful.
 
tifosi1299 said:
Correct but bang for the buck, comfort and performance Ducati is in trouble... I'm jumping to M-spec Bmw and can't wait!!!

I'm not spending 27K for V4S and worry about oil leaks, recalls and 1500$ major service

Ciao
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youre gonna be waiting for the m spec for a long time lol. all s1000rr are on hold due to some casting issues that came up. probably wont see any until october. check the bmws1000rr forum, someone posted there is a recall already......who knows
 
jpanigale said:
Huh?? 30k V4S and 25K RSV4 1100 Factory. Aprilia already set faster time than V4R at Mugello...
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Perhaps you need to look into superbike regulations. Now if you actually meant street sportbikes, change the wording of the actual comparison. And one guy making a lap time with a particular bike doesnt mean anything.
 
mark419ny said:
mid range duc are you serious? the bmw isnt even 25k. say what you want about looks or whatever else but when you can get the bmw and a gsxr or r1m for cheaper than the v4r with exhaust there is a problem.
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Yes, the V4s is the midrange Panigale, what do you call it??? The comparo didnt say best 25k sport bike that I read. If you want cheap, you are in the wrong forum, bang for your buck isn't in the liter class at all, check out the 600's.
 
I've seen the new S1000RR M spec in person and it is pretty underwhelming visually. Apart from the new headlights, which look great, the rest of the bike looks cheap and dated in my opinion.

It's obviously a great bike on the track, but it's even more refined than the previous generation S1000RR, so it's going to be pretty boring on the road. I owned a 2016 S1000RR and while it had great power and a crazy top end, it was quite bland to ride compared to my V4S.

Even the guys on 44Teeth said that they'd pick the V4S over the new S1000RR for street riding, as the V4S just had that wow factor and character that the S1000RR just doesn't have.

Everyone's different though and wants different things from their bikes.
 
It is hard to compare bikes anyway.
The BMW M has carbon rims, while nobody who is racing is using carbon rims.
The V4S has 1103cc.
The Aprilia has 1078cc.
BMW and V4 have suspension that is not allowed in racing.
V4 (as in config) vs 4 in line.
...
You could go on and on and on...

In the end, people will always compare themselves and buy the bike they like. For me, money is an issue, but S1000RR vs V4 isn't.

The perfect bike for me? The agility of the Aprilia, the power and looks of the Ducati and the reliability and dealer network of the BMW.
 
PanigaleV4S said:
I've seen the new S1000RR M spec in person and it is pretty underwhelming visually. Apart from the new headlights, which look great, the rest of the bike looks cheap and dated in my opinion.

It's obviously a great bike on the track, but it's even more refined than the previous generation S1000RR, so it's going to be pretty boring on the road. I owned a 2016 S1000RR and while it had great power and a crazy top end, it was quite bland to ride compared to my V4S.

Even the guys on 44Teeth said that they'd pick the V4S over the new S1000RR for street riding, as the V4S just had that wow factor and character that the S1000RR just doesn't have.

Everyone's different though and wants different things from their bikes.
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I have 1400 miles on my 2020 S1000RR M and I can say there's not one place the Ducati V4S beats it beyond appearances and perhaps sound, which are both pretty subjective. Plus you can add about $5,000 worth of bling before you're even at the same price. There's a pretty big flat spot around 5,000rpm in 2nd, but I have no doubt that will get worked out with a tune. And it's 1000cc, not 1100...
 

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