not my review: Neil Hodgson compares superbikes

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Purple racks and trays.
They've lost me completely.
No wonder the quality standards are slipping and becoming more inconsistent at BMW.

Seriously?!? :confused:

A guy says the BMWs are made in Taiwan. Proof that they aren't is offered. And then you want to somehow link the color choice in storage devices to your perceived lack of quality.

I take back wanting to do a curb squirrel challenge with you. You seem fanboi enough to kick over my bike if you lost :(
 
Ya know if you weren't across the pond, I'd challenge you to a curb squirrel appeal test. You bring your Duc and I bring my HP4, we park them out in front of someplace public and tally which gets the most admirers. Preferably a college campus where we can "interview" any cute female admirers on why they like our bikes (emphasizing the owners) ;)

Screw settling this like gentlemen. We'll settle it like any man should: which bike picks up the most women! :D

I love a challenge just as much as the next bloke.
But, you haven't got a chance:rolleyes:

I'll bet you my trusty old RED 2012 1199 S will get more instant moist-ons than your gay magnet blue wheeled BMW:D
I'll even pull more lezo's well before your BMW ever will.
That's without even starting it:eek:

Quite frankly I reckon I've probably got an unfair advantage, because even the sound from my mighty Termi slips will herald my approach at a measly 3000 rpm, and will be pulling them from within a Kilometre radius of our meeting point.
AAND, they won't care how fancy your suspension technology is because it will be beyond their comprehension any way.
The bike they'll want to sit on, and get their pic taken with (while it's stationary) will be the DUCATI.
Just so they can have an excuse to strike poses, hang their ....ies out, and show off their sexy ..... while looking around to see who's looking at them.

Lets face it.
If you put both bikes side by side in a showroom, a sales person would have no problem UP SELLING people into the RED DUCATI 1199 S against a boring old HP4 with its Gay Blue wheels and ........ decals any day:eek:

Red DUCATIs' are a styling classic in their own time:)
That's a universal fact:p

Blue and white BMWs', with their "Gay Blue" wheels are more suited to parade duty at the G&L Mardi gras (at night), where there's so much other colour, movement and gyrating around to distract the crowd from the 1 eyed possum look:eek:

My advise to you is.
Don't even bother showing up.
You'll only embarrass yourself:(

Tell you what, seeing as you appear to be a nice enough sort of person, I might even toss you some crumbs to lick off the footpath:D
Just don't park too close to me. Ok.

I'm going to need room for crowd control, and organizing the girls in an orderly and proficient manner:D
Duty of care and all that.

Actually seeing as you won't be doing all that much, you can earn your crumbs by helping with organising the line up of girls;)
 
Meh, could easily say a lot in response to Brad's trip down Insanity Lane (and yes I seriously would worry for my bike's safety when his didn't get enough attention). Of course were he to put on his riding leathers I'm sure he'd get flocked

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But I stand by what I said about it not being a fair comparison of bike ability. The test really wasn't even "How do these bikes stack up against one another?". The whole test was "How does the SP stack up against the competition?". It didn't /endstory.
 
At least somebody gets it! I guess people like to pretend that they are race heroes by having the fastest lapping bike when they are not even capable of using any of them properly.
If you buy a bike based on lap times in a magazine it's a pretty dumb thing to do. You'll find it out when you do a trackday and get passed by some kid on a tatty old 600 too

Exactly. I wouldn't mind owning a BMW and if I did I would vehemently defend the bike for its abilities. But I bought a Ducati because it does exactly what I want it to do so I'll defend it vehemently.
 
Blue and white BMWs', with their "Gay Blue" wheels are more suited to parade duty at the G&L Mardi gras (at night), where there's so much other colour, movement and gyrating around to distract the crowd from the 1 eyed possum look:eek:

Glad to see the comparison is catching on. There really is an uncanny resemblance.

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BMW new all along the S1000rr was just a track day tool. Thats why they let "make a wish" design it.
 
DDC in the hands of an amateur like me inspires me to brake later into corners, compensating for the nose dive later braking causes. So DDC + increased midrange + lighter crank (less rotational mass) + lighter wheels (less rotational mass) could possibly = 4 seconds. Personally I think they should have used a stock s1000rr.

And btw the HP4 Standard's wheels are the same as the Carbon. Just not blue.

Well I'm not proclaiming to be a pro by any means def an amateur but I don't feel the DDC really inspires me more so than a well sorted suspension on a bike. Once I had my suspension setup for my weight on the panigale I feel equally as confident in most areas. Sure I can feel the difference in breaking and turn in and have done some things on the HP4 and gone "WOW" kind of how on the fly the bike made changes. I notice the DDC more when I'm cruising around how it softens and the ride is more pleasent but then changes when I push it. There I can really feel it to a point. Mainly I think its all in our heads or when your at the limit of your skill and the bike is absorbing your mistakes, making you better where the DDC shines.

I was pretty sure the Comp had different wheels, perhaps I am mistaken and they are just blue. Again yeah you could have put an R in there but I don't think it would have changed anything, since they have done that already and the BMW came out on top again. Just my .02. Plus the R is way more than the HP4 Comp, then again its a what does your money buy you scenario.
 
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Vanquisher like I said it wasn't even a "How do these bikes stack up?" It was a "How does the SP stack up against these bikes?". End result: it doesn't.

The S model didn't rank above the standard s1000rr. Of course it's not going to place above the HP4. The 1199R couldn't do that.
 
Again yeah you could have put an R in there but I don't think it would have changed anything, since they have done that already and the BMW came out on top again. Just my .02. Plus the R is way more than the HP4 Comp, then again its a what does your money buy you scenario.

Last May MCN with this same Neil H. did a track comparo of the RSV4 Factory, MV4RR, HP4 and the R. The R was fastest. Regardless of why it was like it was, on that day on that track with that rider and given respective set ups the Panigale took the prize. And this wasn't the only time it beat the HP4.
 

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