PRO Pipe on a non R bike

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flobrandx said:
Maybe you should read the whole original post again and not just read what you want to.
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I did read it. Its full of bs and rumour causing speculation. Is it the pipe? No it is not is the obvious answer so why even state it.


Sigh this forum is so low on actual mechanical knowledge it is saddening. People talking about popped engines with zero idea of cause making wild theories and accusations.
 
gatti man said:
You guys must know absolutely zero about engines. I give up.
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i am out of this thread.

i won't touch a wrench ever again.

i will return my degree.

i will ask my boss to let me go.

i "lost" an internet discussion.

i will never participate again in a thread about internal combustion engines.



LOL
 
All engines that have failed were using a piggyback ECU or flash, so that the RPM's were raised by only 500 RPM similar to the R model. The base and S non-titanium rods will fail due to the engine piston speed dramatically changing for just that 500 RPM increase. The R model has the rods necessary for this extra stress.

George Villar
 
George Villar said:
All engines that have failed were using a piggyback ECU or flash, so that the RPM's were raised by only 500 RPM similar to the R model. The base and S non-titanium rods will fail due to the engine piston speed dramatically changing for just that 500 RPM increase. The R model has the rods necessary for this extra stress.

George Villar
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Damn if that's what they did then those guys are crazy. Any rpm change requires in shop testing first.


Phil said:
i am out of this thread.

i won't touch a wrench ever again.

i will return my degree.

i will ask my boss to let me go.

i "lost" an internet discussion.

i will never participate again in a thread about internal combustion engines.



LOL
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Might be a good idea if you can't see the problems in this thread.
 
gatti man said:
I did read it. Its full of bs and rumour causing speculation. Is it the pipe? No it is not is the obvious answer so why even state it.


Sigh this forum is so low on actual mechanical knowledge it is saddening. People talking about popped engines with zero idea of cause making wild theories and accusations.
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LMFAO .With gems like
Any advice or a how to to prep for race bodywork? Headlight and all fairings are coming off. Thanks!
and
Has anyone done just the slips? I'm comfortable stripping my bike down but do I need any heavy duty tools?
and about swapping chain and sprockets
Is this a DIY or too difficult?

Your a dead set ...... .
 
wilkson said:
LMFAO .With gems like
Any advice or a how to to prep for race bodywork? Headlight and all fairings are coming off. Thanks!
and
Has anyone done just the slips? I'm comfortable stripping my bike down but do I need any heavy duty tools?
and about swapping chain and sprockets
Is this a DIY or too difficult?

Your a dead set ...... .
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Hey I'm not an expert at doing something I've never done before. I don't claim to know everything but I do know engines. Its common sense and you time after time show your ... on this board. Its supposed to be an exchange of knowledge. I know engines but I've obviously never stripped down an 1199 before. One doesn't even touch the other. As if I should have to explain this.

Anyone even buying the exhaust pops engines bs is the ....... Ie you and your buddies.
 
gatti man said:
Hey I'm not an expert at doing something I've never done before. I don't claim to know everything but I do know engines. Its common sense and you time after time show your ... on this board. Its supposed to be an exchange of knowledge. I know engines but I've obviously never stripped down an 1199 before. One doesn't even touch the other. As if I should have to explain this.

Anyone even buying the exhaust pops engines bs is the ....... Ie you and your buddies.
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LOL. Your looking foolish now
 
wilkson said:
LOL. Your looking foolish now
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Yeah I was the only one speaking truth in this thread, was proven right and I look foolish ok.

Edit: pretty ironic you call someone foolish and can't even use proper English.
 
The only thing more obnoxious than an obnoxious Ducati owner is an obnoxious 1199R owner. I mean jesus christ, a lighter flywheel, ti-con rods, and some CF we can buy ANYWHERE don't make ya hot .... bud.

Gonna go ride my ...... S-Model. Oh wait 2.5 weeks later I still don't have a shifter! Should've waited and gotten the R!
 
White13Pani said:
The only thing more obnoxious than an obnoxious Ducati owner is an obnoxious 1199R owner. I mean jesus christ, a lighter flywheel, ti-con rods, and some CF we can buy ANYWHERE don't make ya hot .... bud.

Gonna go ride my ...... S-Model. Oh wait 2.5 weeks later I still don't have a shifter! Should've waited and gotten the R!
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Some R riders like to think they are special....;)
 
White13Pani said:
The only thing more obnoxious than an obnoxious Ducati owner is an obnoxious 1199R owner. I mean jesus christ, a lighter flywheel, ti-con rods, and some CF we can buy ANYWHERE don't make ya hot .... bud.
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Actually it does. The R is > S. just like the 1098r was better than any other 1098 (though the SP came close). If you want the most bad ... panigale, its the 1199r right now. So it is "hot ....".

And in his case putting the race ohlins and al the other stuff he has on his bike- its even more than the "base" R. I think the forks on his bike are half of a base panigale.....

Not commenting on the rest as its just a pissing contest.
 
This guy is straight hating on kope.... Wtf does special have to do the guy loves bikes let him be, pretty jealous to finally lash out and still not have a point you say your no expert at making simple changes to a bike yet overnight your a ....... engineer and preaching about manifolds and tuning ? Kope thank you for the greatest build to an r bike that a lot of us has ever seen your pretty special to us since you don't act like your nicky or rossi.... A regular dude enthusiastic about his ride! Wilkson thanks for the diarrhea you had all over batti and those forks are 11 grand u.s which is about 60% of a base pani.....
 
quackquack said:
This guy is straight hating on kope.... Wtf does special have to do the guy loves bikes let him be, pretty jealous to finally lash out and still not have a point you say your no expert at making simple changes to a bike yet overnight your a ....... engineer and preaching about manifolds and tuning ? Kope thank you for the greatest build to an r bike that a lot of us has ever seen your pretty special to us since you don't act like your nicky or rossi.... A regular dude enthusiastic about his ride! Wilkson thanks for the diarrhea you had all over batti and those forks are 11 grand u.s which is about 60% of a base pani.....
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Try reading.

An exhaust will never cause engine failure. Let that sink in. An exhaust will never cause engine failure. This isn't some high concept, its common sense. If you have ever tuned anything in your life you will know this. I don't have to be an engineer but geez I'm wondering how poor this forum is to be so bewildered by my posts.

I could give a crap about Kobe. Its just the idea that an exhaust can cause engine failure is 100% false. Get it? Its all in the tune. It isn't some magic thing with titanium. Ask guys with built blocks how important a tune is vs the headers or what is inside your engine. The TI comes into play by allowing less weight and faster rotation. Increasing your rpm without testing it like with a spintron (idk what motorcycle engines use but that's what ls7s use) is just asking for failure.

Anyone else care to post and prove they know zero about engines? I'm taking notes on who to never to listen to on this forum.
 
gatti man said:
Try reading.

An exhaust will never cause engine failure. Let that sink in. An exhaust will never cause engine failure. This isn't some high concept, its common sense. If you have ever tuned anything in your life you will know this. I don't have to be an engineer but geez I'm wondering how poor this forum is to be so bewildered by my posts.

I could give a crap about Kobe. Its just the idea that an exhaust can cause engine failure is 100% false. Get it? Its all in the tune. It isn't some magic thing with titanium. Ask guys with built blocks how important a tune is vs the headers or what is inside your engine. The TI comes into play by allowing less weight and faster rotation. Increasing your rpm without testing it like with a spintron (idk what motorcycle engines use but that's what ls7s use) is just asking for failure.

Anyone else care to post and prove they know zero about engines? I'm taking notes on who to never to listen to on this forum.
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I am not going to argue whether the R exhaust caused those failures or not. But your statement in its theoretical sense isn't true. You can have a really badly built exhaust which can cause engine failure. I mean build one that only allows 5 percent airflow creating massive back pressure and it could certainly be the primary contributor to engine failure. Change the exhaust that originally requires lambda sensors to pne that doesnt without without disabling the lambda sensors in the ecu and it could wreak havoc as well. Design an exhaust that the lambda sensors don't read proper af ratios and the engine dumps tons of fuel or runs it crazy lean and it will cause engine failure as well.

So - care to revisit that 100 percent statement ??
 
kope999R said:
some info :

The Pro pipes are meant for R only. As of course it can be mounted but it s impossible to activate the RPO settings already in place in the R. Aftermarkets engine managment systems have to be used. This annuls the warranty. and apparantly the non R engines seem not to cope very well with that pipe. .The engine that blew yesterday carried that pipe for not more than a couple of laps... is it due to that pipe? who knows? is it reassuring , certainly not.. Ducati states clearly that the Pro Pipe is R only...
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BASICALLY YOU IGNORANT DUMB MOTHER ...... YOU FAILED TO READ THE ....... OUTLINED POST..... EVERYTHING YOUR TRYING TO SAY IS IN THE ORIGINAL ABOVE QUOTE THAT YOUR DESPERATLEY TRYING TO CRITICIZE!!!! HE STATES " IS IT DUE TO THE PIPE ? WHO KNOWS?" HE IS NOT MAKING A STATEMENT OR INTENDING ON A FACT AND IT IS COMMON SENSE TO ASSUME YOU CAN'T GET THE MAP TUNE FOR THAT EXHAUST BASED ON THE DIFF ENGINES however aftermarket ones or no tune change can be the possibility !!!! Your a ...... ...... .... I apologize forum members for my vulgar language but I get really bothered when non forum contributers attack great forum contributers in a disrespectful and condescending manner ..... 2 wrongs don't make a right but this guy is pathetic ..... KOpe kudos to you for not taking this guy serious I totally understand what you meant thanks for the info
 

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