Hmmmmm, Mixed review and feelings about the Panigale in MCN against the others

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sqd8r said:
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Deep down inside, every BMW owner is very satisfied because they do own a exotic. It doesn't have to be from Italy to be exotic.
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Except for the 1100+ owners whose motors were shipped with loose con rod bolts. :D

Seriously though, the BMW is a potent track tool and awesome street bike too, and if I wanted an inline 4 I probably would have considered one until the recall.

Not sure it's exotic however. Fast? Yes. But it's too fugly to be exotic.

To each their own.
 
In Germany, BMW is everybody's bike.

In France, BMW is gay's and snobs' bike.

In both case, it's the ugliest bike I ever saw. In fact, it is the most important design lesson of this century, an all-in-one "you shouldn't do that" bike.
 
It's not just MCN.

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I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the 1199. The reason why I'm evaluating it is because it's 'pure sex on wheels'. But I actually like to ride my bike...sometimes on the track and not always a leisurely stroll. Results from multiple sources have me thinking the 1199 is a great bike to look at, it's a great bike to ride in certain use cases, but if I want the best performance litre bike the 1199 isn't it.

Before anyone has a cow, I'm not a Ducati basher. I'm considering spending my hard earned cash on one. However, I don't have a loyalty to them or any other motorcycle brand.

Clearly to each his own and the 1199 is sexy as hell, but starting to have reservations about it being the bike for ME.

I know people will bash me for not saying all the right things, but I'm hoping some folks may have constructive thoughts about the 1199 as it relates to performance and tell me what I missing other than it's the prettiest. :D And yes I know I'm not a MotoGP rider and not capable of using all of the bikes potential, but still doesn't make me want a bike with the most potential any less.
 
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Rickety said:
It's not just MCN.

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I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the 1199. The reason why I'm evaluating it is because it's 'pure sex on wheels'. But I actually like to ride my bike...sometimes on the track and not always a leisurely stroll. Results from multiple sources have me thinking the 1199 is a great bike to look at, it's a great bike to ride in certain use cases, but if I want the best performance litre bike the 1199 isn't it.

Before anyone has a cow, I'm not a Ducati basher. I'm considering spending my hard earned cash on one. However, I don't have a loyalty to them or any other motorcycle brand.

Clearly to each his own and the 1199 is sexy as hell, but starting to have reservations about it being the bike for ME.

I know people will bash me for not saying all the right things, but I'm hoping some folks may have constructive thoughts about the 1199 as it relates to performance and tell me what I missing other than it's the prettiest. :D And yes I know I'm not a MotoGP rider and not capable of using all of the bikes potential, but still doesn't make me want a bike with the most potential any less.
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No bashing required - You have said it all - Its not the bike for you if your looking for all out performance.
 
DUCENZO said:
Guys simply put, I buy a Duc because it's a Duc....I've never bought one because it was the best at anything...maybe handling with the Trellis Frame.

All these guys complaining about reviews and lap times are either 1st time Duc buyer or or just frustrated with the waiting. But a Duc and you'll always own a Duc :).

When the cbr 1000 rr had the thrown I was leaving my boys with em in the dust on my 999 which deffinately wasn't the fastest...same when the R1 took over, they couldn't hold me on my 1198.

I'm getting this bike because of how it already makes me feel, it's living room worthy. And I'll still be competitive riding with a pack of bimmers and I'll look better doing it lol...ON MY STOCK BASE 1199 might I add ;).
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+1. Furthur, after another 10k in mods to my $16k HM1100S, I am going to be happy when I don't read about a cheap dude picking up a used base model 1199 and trying to save $5 by building his own airbox like some hyper owners do. Hopefully the pricetag will keep the BMW owners on BMWs, and Ducati enthusiasts coughing up the $ to remain Ducati connoisseurs.

If I sound pompous, it's because I am.

No offence but,..."The world needs ditch diggers too."-Judge Smails "Caddyshack".
 
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mangler7 said:
Hopefully the pricetag will keep the BMW owners on BMWs, and Ducati enthusiasts coughing up the $ to remain Ducati connoisseurs.

If I sound pompous, it's because I am.

No offence but,..."The world needs ditch diggers too."-Judge Smails "Caddyshack".
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LOL... Guess if I end up getting the Aprilia RSV4 Factory APRC SE, then I should look down on people that ride a plain ole Panigale (non S or Tricolore). People who find self worth in material possessions are truly a sad lot.

And one other thought. Generally speaking, those that truly have it, don't talk about it. Just saying...
 
I don't know about everyone else but I have not ridden the 1199.......and if you haven't how are you making the decision that it's not the highest performing, best bike for you?

I guess whats most surprising out of the 2 tests I read so far (well 1 as the other was in Italian) is how well the 3 year old RSV4 is holding up vs the competition!
 
The Aprilia and the Honda. Amazing how the Honda with relatively no changes is still running with the top dogs.
 
CHarles foxtrot said:
Except for the 1100+ owners whose motors were shipped with loose con rod bolts. :D

Seriously though, the BMW is a potent track tool and awesome street bike too, and if I wanted an inline 4 I probably would have considered one until the recall.

Not sure it's exotic however. Fast? Yes. But it's too fugly to be exotic.

To each their own.
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Bizarre definition of exotic if you are basing it on looks. Plenty of dog-ugly bikes still qualified as exotics. Think Bimota Mantra for one. :eek:

To me exotic doesn't automatically imply Italian, which I've owned and own, or ultra expensive, again which I've owned. Something special about it must exist; hard pressed to see how a 1st effort superbike trumping everything on the block 3 yrs running cannot be considered special or exotic.
 
I wouldn't consider the BM exotic at all. More like a red head, or fat chick.

You might have fun with it, but it's the sorta thing you wouldn't show off to your friends.

:)
 
mangler7 said:
+1. Furthur, after another 10k in mods to my $16k HM1100S, I am going to be happy when I don't read about a cheap dude picking up a used base model 1199 and trying to save $5 by building his own airbox like some hyper owners do. Hopefully the pricetag will keep the BMW owners on BMWs, and Ducati enthusiasts coughing up the $ to remain Ducati connoisseurs.

If I sound pompous, it's because I am.

No offence but,..."The world needs ditch diggers too."-Judge Smails "Caddyshack".
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Wow, that small huh. :cool:
 
Rickety said:
LOL... Guess if I end up getting the Aprilia RSV4 Factory APRC SE, then I should look down on people that ride a plain ole Panigale (non S or Tricolore). People who find self worth in material possessions are truly a sad lot.

And one other thought. Generally speaking, those that truly have it, don't talk about it. Just saying...
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And we will all bow to you my friend. That APRC SE is amazing. Your second point rings so true as well.
 
Yama1yzf said:
I don't know about everyone else but I have not ridden the 1199.......and if you haven't how are you making the decision that it's not the highest performing, best bike for you?

I guess whats most surprising out of the 2 tests I read so far (well 1 as the other was in Italian) is how well the 3 year old RSV4 is holding up vs the competition!
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I'm surprised the RSV4 isn't mentioned more also.
 
Really bizarre how poorly the F4RR did. The F4 was certainly on my list; perhaps my local ex-Ducati dealer was correct, the design no matter how gorgeous, is an old design.
 
Did I miss something? I thought his was a 1199 forum.

I'm always perplexed when ppl hop on forums ranting and raving about having to own the "best" of something. One day, these ppl will realise that there ain't no such thing. Things are just different, there a pros and cons to everything. And whether or not something is better than something else, is largely dependent of the project directives and restrictions.

On a slightly different note.. I wish all the peeps who were reconsidering, live in Sydney Au. I would be encouraging you to all cancel your order so I could get mine sooner than later.. ;)
 
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Who gives a crap that the riders of MCN said? Wait till Checa gets his hands on it next year in WSBK! Most of us barely get more the 75% out of our bikes.
 
Tonyw said:
Who gives a crap that the riders of MCN said? Wait till Checa gets his hands on it next year in WSBK! Most of us barely get more the 75% out of our bikes.
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Checa bike won't be anything like the bike you own so don't even bother comparing them .

as for some of the comparisons between other bike , if Ducati didn't come out with the statements that the 1199 was going to destroy the competition there wouldn't be any , they make statements like that then it comes out , its only be slightly better that the 1198 in performance wise .

yes its pretty , is it designed well personally i don't think so have a close look at how everything is bolted to the engine cases to looks weak and already proven to be so , it also has engine issues with more than a few engines self destructing .

i don't care about the brand i just want the best bike for the job , thats why i canceled the 1199 and brought a Honda , i wanted the best handling fastest bike i could buy for the track , so i got a EX factory honda cheaper than you will pay for a S model 1199 .

i don't know why so many here get up set when someone says something negative about the 1199 even if its the truth , yes its a 1199 forum but its about the good and the bad , most seam to see Ducati with blinkers on just because its a Ducati doesn't mean its the best , there are a lot better bikes out there for a lot less money .

what ever you buy just enjoy it
 
shanes said:
Checa bike won't be anything like the bike you own so don't even bother comparing them .

as for some of the comparisons between other bike , if Ducati didn't come out with the statements that the 1199 was going to destroy the competition there wouldn't be any , they make statements like that then it comes out , its only be slightly better that the 1198 in performance wise .

yes its pretty , is it designed well personally i don't think so have a close look at how everything is bolted to the engine cases to looks weak and already proven to be so , it also has engine issues with more than a few engines self destructing .

i don't care about the brand i just want the best bike for the job , thats why i canceled the 1199 and brought a Honda , i wanted the best handling fastest bike i could buy for the track , so i got a EX factory honda cheaper than you will pay for a S model 1199 .

i don't know why so many here get up set when someone says something negative about the 1199 even if its the truth , yes its a 1199 forum but its about the good and the bad , most seam to see Ducati with blinkers on just because its a Ducati doesn't mean its the best , there are a lot better bikes out there for a lot less money .

what ever you buy just enjoy it
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Everybody has to decide for themselves what they want and need in a bike....good for you ;)
I do love the Duc bikes I own which doesn't mean I will blindly buy anything they produce. I'm on the fence about the 1199 seeing how things shake out.
 

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