My meaning was, with the exception of track days which I am only competing with my own times, I will save the "whose fastest" for the pros! The bike is plenty fast for me, even with my mad skills!
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My meaning was, with the exception of track days which I am only competing with my own times, I will save the "whose fastest" for the pros! The bike is plenty fast for me, even with my mad skills!
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you may ride on track a few times a year , its the only place i do ride and its 2-3 times at least every month . ill be out again on friday on the RSV4
i have never ridden on the road and don't see the point of it , i have a twist and go 125 scooter if i need to ride on the roads i normally take the car :-}}
enjoy your bike and keep believing in Ducati
I'm not an Uccio for Ducati, and haven't owned one before. I find it amusing that someone who buys a full on race bike to do track days (a stupid decision) would come to a forum where he has no interest to deride Ducati owners for the decision they made to buy an 1199.
The fact that you say you do 3-4 track days a month means that you will either be:
1) plugging in a race new motor twice a year, maybe three times;
2) plugging in a stock motor for long term reliability (sort of defeats the purpose of buying a race bike),
or
3) going easy on the race motor for the sake of longetivity (also sort of defeats the purpose of buying a race bike), and won't really work anyhow.
Do you have a crew to bring to your track days to help you sort out your new bike?
And what do you mean by "ex-factory"?
you may ride on track a few times a year , its the only place i do ride and its 2-3 times at least every month . ill be out again on friday on the RSV4
i have never ridden on the road and don't see the point of it , i have a twist and go 125 scooter if i need to ride on the roads i normally take the car :-}}
enjoy your bike and keep believing in Ducati
Well I do play the Ducati Challenge game on my iphone almost every day. I am real good and own many records! so
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This has to be one of the most ignorant comments I've read in this thread. Your telling me that if someone buys a bike (or a car for that matter) based on looks then they are a "squid"?
While performance is important, looks rank very high with any vehicle purchase I make. When I first saw pictures of the Panigale, I knew I had to have one. It was the first Ducati since the 916 that did that. The fact that it is has the ability to perform beyond my abilities was enough for me. I could care less if the BMW is faster.
I have a coworker interested in a Beemer. I've encouraged him to get one as I don't make judgments for others. Personally, I have zero interest in the "looks" of the BMW so that would prevent me from ever owning one.
check British superstock and Australian Superbikes.....
Glenn Allerton and S1000RR Win Australian SBK | BMW Motorcycle Magazine
Im a big fan of the panigale and have one on order for all the reasons thats been mentioned through this forum....I also have 2010 S1000rr which I love but want to change....I have no doubt on the S1KRR that it's been the best bike for solid 2 years, nothings came close, in 2010 it blew everything off the road straight out the crate...it still does, its easily rideable fast, it was the first bike at a reasonable price with the TC and ABS quickshifter etc.....no one should be arguing the S1KRR credentials against panigale. They are two different bikes and I love both of them!!!!
Glenn Allerton and S1000RR Win Australian SBK | BMW Motorcycle Magazine
Im a big fan of the panigale and have one on order for all the reasons thats been mentioned through this forum....I also have 2010 S1000rr which I love but want to change....I have no doubt on the S1KRR that it's been the best bike for solid 2 years, nothings came close, in 2010 it blew everything off the road straight out the crate...it still does, its easily rideable fast, it was the first bike at a reasonable price with the TC and ABS quickshifter etc.....no one should be arguing the S1KRR credentials against panigale. They are two different bikes and I love both of them!!!!
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I'm simply stating 70-80% of those owning sport bikes are squids. They would rather look good than have a bike that performs. I would think on this forum there would be a more mature group and they would understand. Most of these people are kids, that have no understanding that these bikes are meant to carve corners.
Here in Florida it's all about styling with no helmet and seeing how fast your bike will go over the bridges on one wheel. There are exceptions, and I've ridden with several here that are mature. However it's a small percentage.
Oh, and no I wouldn't buy any bike or car for JUST it's looks.
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well you will be in for a shock when you do own one , that are not nearly as good as the hype you read about 848/1198 , i have not ridden a 1199 yet maybe next week ill test one until then i cant say what its like . i had a 1199 ordered , it was going to be built by a german team but for 47,000 euro it wasn't worth the money for just a supersport spec that hadn't proven its self so i canceled it
i raced bikes for 30 years i am retired from racing but still love to do it so i just do track days .
what makes you think that is my only bike , i brought the honda to ride at sepang in malaysia , it has been set up just for that circuit , i ride a RSV4 here at Sentul in indonesia and a GSXR 1000 in bira thailand .
i work on the bikes myself
as for ex factory bike it was built by one of the teams the bike came third at the isle of man tt last year , to buy just the forks alone would be 10,000 pounds the engine was 10,000 pounds to build also , it wsbk spec but built for endurance .
all my bikes are race/track bikes and mx bikes
like i said before enjoy your bike i know ill be enjoying mine
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Some of the comments on this particular thread really are hard to believe ...are some of you that good a rider that 2 secs a lap will mean your going to change over to a bmw??
I dont really give 2 shakes that its slower than a bmw round a race track, i can tell you catorgorically right now that if i had been riding the ducati during that test it would have slower than all the other bikes as well!
I also know that im not even the fastest rider in the rideouts i go on with friends and i still wouldnt be if you stuck me on a bmw.
Im buying the 1199 because its a Ducati and its a v twin sports bike that sounds and looks fantastic, its exotic and its expensive and its my treat to myself after long years trying to make ends meet, look after kids, working hard, and paying bills.
Yes im happy to say that part of my reason for buying it is because its expensive and so will be a fairly rare sight around these parts which means i can be part of an exclusive club of just one ... ME !
Im also going to enjoy the fact that lots of my biking mates will secretly love to have the keys to it.
I also habour thoughts that it will make me be seen in the eyes of beautiful women as a biking god whose peformance on the bike can only be matched by my performance in the bedroom!....however this maybe asking to much.
Basically im buying the Ducati because of all that the ducati name represents and to fullfil all those dreams of ownership i had when i first started out.
I dont really give 2 shakes that its slower than a bmw round a race track, i can tell you catorgorically right now that if i had been riding the ducati during that test it would have slower than all the other bikes as well!
I also know that im not even the fastest rider in the rideouts i go on with friends and i still wouldnt be if you stuck me on a bmw.
Im buying the 1199 because its a Ducati and its a v twin sports bike that sounds and looks fantastic, its exotic and its expensive and its my treat to myself after long years trying to make ends meet, look after kids, working hard, and paying bills.
Yes im happy to say that part of my reason for buying it is because its expensive and so will be a fairly rare sight around these parts which means i can be part of an exclusive club of just one ... ME !
Im also going to enjoy the fact that lots of my biking mates will secretly love to have the keys to it.
I also habour thoughts that it will make me be seen in the eyes of beautiful women as a biking god whose peformance on the bike can only be matched by my performance in the bedroom!....however this maybe asking to much.
Basically im buying the Ducati because of all that the ducati name represents and to fullfil all those dreams of ownership i had when i first started out.
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I call shenanigans on all this crap. Talk about bragging; you beat the piss out of anyone who wanted the 1199 based on it being the fastest bike so they could have bragging rights. Even if all that is true who cares.
Even if the BMW is faster who cares. If all you want is the bike that some amateur racers and journalists (and Hodgson) are fastest on then go buy the BMW. Me, I'm gonna get the 1199 because that's the only bike I want to spend my hard-earned money on.
Don't really understand all the issues. Surely different people for different bikes.
I'm pretty confident my lap times would be similar on either the Ducati or BMW so don't particularly care. I'm going to have fun on it, end of.
Sure, it will have its issues. It's a bit 'lumpy' at low revs, the stand is a pain to put down whilst on the bike, and the rear shock digs into my thigh when left foot is on the floor. Something else will no doubt crop up. Let's not overlook the BMW issues though, in particular the recent recall to over 1000 bikes, with BMW no 'officially' telling owners that they cannot use them until repair works are fixed. They will however be fixed, and be excellent bikes. It's not all one sided though.
I'm pretty confident my lap times would be similar on either the Ducati or BMW so don't particularly care. I'm going to have fun on it, end of.
Sure, it will have its issues. It's a bit 'lumpy' at low revs, the stand is a pain to put down whilst on the bike, and the rear shock digs into my thigh when left foot is on the floor. Something else will no doubt crop up. Let's not overlook the BMW issues though, in particular the recent recall to over 1000 bikes, with BMW no 'officially' telling owners that they cannot use them until repair works are fixed. They will however be fixed, and be excellent bikes. It's not all one sided though.
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Ouch! Both are painful to look at
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You are talking out of your ass.
Its not a factory bike, I'm almost certain of that.
It can't be a "WSBK spec built for endurance". Take your pick - its either an endurance bike or a WSBK spec bike. The two are different. Unless its a thrid tier WSBK spec.
I hope that yu are a good wrench, because you'll need one with your factory bike.
Yet we are the ones who made uninformed and bad decision to buy an 1199.
<facepalm>
I'vew got you beat in the racing department by seven years, btw.
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Well this thread has made interesting reading and provoked some strange and contentious views.
I currently ride an '08 Fireblade which when I bought it was (and still is) a great bike but definately lacked "character". The first time I rode one I was blown away by the top end speed and power but at the same time was left feeling strangely flat. Yes I had arrived at the destination well in advance of my friends but I wasn't exactly shaking with an adrenalin rush. I subsequently bought one, spent almost as much again on giving it character and some uniqueness (Akro exhaust, carbon wheels, Rizoma top yolk, to mention a few of the 28 different mods) and finally have a bike of which I am proud (to some extent - it's the nicest one I've ever seen - but it is still a Honda) and enjoy riding.
When I saw the Panigale and read the hype I put an order in (Tricolore) which is due next month. I didn't put the order in because it was going to blow away all the opposition, I put it in because it is a) Very pretty, b) Technologically advanced c) As fast as I will ever want go d) Bags of character straight out of the bag and e) something I will be proud to own - even 5 or 10 years down the line. f) exclusive.
Now if that makes me a shallow person then hands up but the I would rather own a Ferrari than a Nissan - not because of the name but because of the whole experience and enjoyment of ownership. I would even enjoy washing a Ferrari but would stick a Nissan through the car wash.
I thought about a BMW (much cheaper) but it lacked at least 4 of the above criteria and they don't make car washes for bikes but I wouldn't knock anyone for going for it. Everyone has their own list of priorities and the fact that they may differ from mine doesn't make them a bad person. With more tolerance of other peoples views the world would be a much better (and peaceful) place.
Can't wait until next month. Until then it's the prettiest Fireblade in the UK for me!
I currently ride an '08 Fireblade which when I bought it was (and still is) a great bike but definately lacked "character". The first time I rode one I was blown away by the top end speed and power but at the same time was left feeling strangely flat. Yes I had arrived at the destination well in advance of my friends but I wasn't exactly shaking with an adrenalin rush. I subsequently bought one, spent almost as much again on giving it character and some uniqueness (Akro exhaust, carbon wheels, Rizoma top yolk, to mention a few of the 28 different mods) and finally have a bike of which I am proud (to some extent - it's the nicest one I've ever seen - but it is still a Honda) and enjoy riding.
When I saw the Panigale and read the hype I put an order in (Tricolore) which is due next month. I didn't put the order in because it was going to blow away all the opposition, I put it in because it is a) Very pretty, b) Technologically advanced c) As fast as I will ever want go d) Bags of character straight out of the bag and e) something I will be proud to own - even 5 or 10 years down the line. f) exclusive.
Now if that makes me a shallow person then hands up but the I would rather own a Ferrari than a Nissan - not because of the name but because of the whole experience and enjoyment of ownership. I would even enjoy washing a Ferrari but would stick a Nissan through the car wash.
I thought about a BMW (much cheaper) but it lacked at least 4 of the above criteria and they don't make car washes for bikes but I wouldn't knock anyone for going for it. Everyone has their own list of priorities and the fact that they may differ from mine doesn't make them a bad person. With more tolerance of other peoples views the world would be a much better (and peaceful) place.
Can't wait until next month. Until then it's the prettiest Fireblade in the UK for me!
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Bravo what a great post!
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