Would you choose a V4R or SP2 for trackday use?

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ignore him Spooky he is a ill informed agitator.

Simply put I would use neither for the track....yep get a base bike and add/remove a few bits!

SP2 things you don't need

35K price tag!
fancy fairings
electronic suspension
carbon wheels
logo on a seat
std upper triple with number
Ducatis version of aftermarket rear sets

35K

base at 22K
2k set of decent alloy wheels
track fairings (no tat!)
4k set of FGRT and ttx
£300 decent seat (spec it correctly when you order it)
1k spider rear sets.

under 30K


then both would need

aftermarket clip ons
switch gear
rearsets
and anything else you wish for



spend the 5k on track time and proper instruction.
 
andyb said:
ignore him Spooky he is a ill informed agitator.

Simply put I would use neither for the track....yep get a base bike and add/remove a few bits!

SP2 things you don't need

35K price tag!
fancy fairings
electronic suspension
carbon wheels
logo on a seat
std upper triple with number
Ducatis version of aftermarket rear sets

35K

base at 22K
2k set of decent alloy wheels
track fairings (no tat!)
4k set of FGRT and ttx
£300 decent seat (spec it correctly when you order it)
1k spider rear sets.

under 30K


then both would need

aftermarket clip ons
switch gear
rearsets
and anything else you wish for



spend the 5k on track time and proper instruction.
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I wouldn’t disagree with any of that. Plus an exhaust though. I do like a dry clutch though.

However… 🤣

I’m not getting any younger and I fancy experiencing the R while I can. A new V4R will cost me about £34K (about 39,000 Euros) inclusive of local VAT to register it. That’s about what I paid for my SP2 before they increased the price. Registration fees are less than £200 (cannot remember the exact cost but it’s well below that figure).

I won’t be spending the money on this instead of track time and tuition - that’s happening as well. Tuition makes a huge difference to progress and you can’t beat time in the saddle working on the right things.

I’ve got CNC Racing rearsets, DP clutch cover, GB Racing alternator cover and Melotti Racing fork sliders that will all transfer across, as will the track fairings that will also fit. I guess my RaceSeats.it seat, which is great, should also fit. The only thing I need to buy is a StompGrip kit and I have a decent price going for the Akrapovic (plus installation here is a lot cheaper than I see people paying elsewhere).

It seems like a no-brainer to me. 🤷‍♂️
 
andyb said:
ignore him Spooky he is a ill informed agitator.

Simply put I would use neither for the track....yep get a base bike and add/remove a few bits!

SP2 things you don't need

35K price tag!
fancy fairings
electronic suspension
carbon wheels
logo on a seat
std upper triple with number
Ducatis version of aftermarket rear sets

35K

base at 22K
2k set of decent alloy wheels
track fairings (no tat!)
4k set of FGRT and ttx
£300 decent seat (spec it correctly when you order it)
1k spider rear sets.

under 30K


then both would need

aftermarket clip ons
switch gear
rearsets
and anything else you wish for



spend the 5k on track time and proper instruction.
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Ha!

Or 5k on stickers like andy
 
spooky said:
Did I ask if it makes financial sense to do so? That’s a rhetorical question.
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spooky said:
As I’m seeing the new V4R at some better prices than retail it got me thinking about whether I would ditch the SP2 and go for a V4R as I wouldn’t lose much money…
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Someone seems to be on the piss because from the original post you’re talking about the financial implications of selling the SP2 to buy a V4R and maintenance costs. Sounds like trying to make financial sense of tit
 
SuperDomestique said:
Someone seems to be on the piss because from the original post you’re talking about the financial implications of selling the SP2 to buy a V4R and maintenance costs. Sounds like trying to make financial sense of tit
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You seem to struggle with reading comprehension, or perhaps you just like to be a dick - it’s hard to tell which it is. Maybe it’s both.

I was not talking about the financial implications as a concern - simply stating that it wouldn’t cost me much to make the change. I was not concerned about maintenance costs - I was simply trying to determine what they were for my own interest and information. It wasn’t a deciding factor but these are facts that one should have. Perhaps you are projecting your own position with regard to finances onto my situation.

Being offered the bike for a much lower price simply made me consider it when I had previously ruled it out - I didn’t consider it worth the amount required to change. Now it’s less than I paid for my SP2 and the price for that went up after I bought it and the cost of changing is significantly reduced to the point where it’s of no consequence.

It’s really very simple.
 
yep 5k on stickers....what a waste!
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andyb said:
ignore him Spooky he is a ill informed agitator.

Simply put I would use neither for the track....yep get a base bike and add/remove a few bits!

SP2 things you don't need

35K price tag!
fancy fairings
electronic suspension
carbon wheels
logo on a seat
std upper triple with number
Ducatis version of aftermarket rear sets

35K

base at 22K
2k set of decent alloy wheels
track fairings (no tat!)
4k set of FGRT and ttx
£300 decent seat (spec it correctly when you order it)
1k spider rear sets.

under 30K


then both would need

aftermarket clip ons
switch gear
rearsets
and anything else you wish for



spend the 5k on track time and proper instruction.
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Very good advice
 
Snuggly said:
And I was worried about being old and fat :)
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Don't worry the cost of replacement leathers will keep you thin. I have a race suit from the 90's (custom $1800 in the 90's) that still fits. Weird it got looser thru the chest and shoulders and tighter in the middle in spite of the fact I weight the same. Thank god it's got a really good main zipper.
 
baggerman said:
Don't worry the cost of replacement leathers will keep you thin. I have a race suit from the 90's (custom $1800 in the 90's) that still fits. Weird it got looser thru the chest and shoulders and tighter in the middle in spite of the fact I weight the same. Thank god it's got a really good main zipper.
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If only there was a racing suit that could make me slim and young - I would order two :)

I do need custom leathers though, my chest/back are too wide for my t-rex arms, so my sleeves end up way too long.
 
Snuggly said:
If only there was a racing suit that could make me slim and young - I would order two :)

I do need custom leathers though, my chest/back are too wide for my t-rex arms, so my sleeves end up way too long.
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It's worth spending the money IMHO. Pricey but so much nicer. Nothing off the rack would ever fit me. The expense of replacement will keep you thin as far as young...
 
baggerman said:
It's worth spending the money IMHO. Pricey but so much nicer. Nothing off the rack would ever fit me. The expense of replacement will keep you thin as far as young...
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Dainese Short & Tall kinda fits me, but its unperforated, so its a choice between boiling or wearing very large gloves, so they can get over the sleeves. I have a trip planned to PSI this winter to deal with this.
 
Snuggly said:
Dainese Short & Tall kinda fits me, but its unperforated, so its a choice between boiling or wearing very large gloves, so they can get over the sleeves. I have a trip planned to PSI this winter to deal with this.
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Mine were from PSI. 👍

4SR are supposed to be very good as well.
 

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