2023 V4R, anyone else disappointed?

DV4 · Nov 6, 2022

No, it was a lechler base coat and high solids clear of some sort. Reds are hard to match but with so many angles and shadows a good match by eye will be fine.

Jrsq270 · Nov 7, 2022

Jrsq270 said:
I had a feeling there would be discrepancies in delivery dates. I do live very close to a Ducati dealer. However I went to a BIG dealership to see if that mattered. They are a Moto-America team sponsor "NYC Ducati" aka Warhorse ( I think the team Petrucci rode for this year?).
Not sure if that made a difference?
They had an V4 SP2 there the # was 2200 something. Waiting to be picked up.

I have to apologize. Dealer just got back to me. The bike with the number 2223 on the clamps was a BAYLISS V2. It is parked in the showroom right next to the V4 SP2
Apologize again.

Vbreeze · Nov 7, 2022

RickD996 said:
Bikes are a bad place to invest, numbered triple, revolutionary, ground breaking, or not.

Buy your bike, ride it or look at it, enjoy it.

Desmosidici has only just started rising in value, but only after the value of money has declined. In real terms, it hasn't gone up at all. Every Superleggera is worth a fraction of original value, as is the HP4 Race.

Ride and enjoy

Agreeing and disagreeing in the sense that as pure monetary investment bikes are, agreed, dubious. In the sense that "investing in yourself" is the best possible investment, bikes are up there with the right education, a good bed, clean air, and finding your tribe, your path, doing whatever it takes to realize yourself.
Shiny red bikes are vehicles to spirituality, brain cleansing, and generally healing on all profound levels, mentors, teachers, partners, muses and friends.
That's a good investment.

RickD996 · Nov 7, 2022

Vbreeze said:
Agreeing and disagreeing in the sense that as pure monetary investment bikes are, agreed, dubious. In the sense that "investing in yourself" is the best possible investment, bikes are up there with the right education, a good bed, clean air, and finding your tribe, your path, doing whatever it takes to realize yourself.
Shiny red bikes are vehicles to spirituality, brain cleansing, and generally healing on all profound levels, mentors, teachers, partners, muses and friends.
That's a good investment.

100%

Vbreeze · Nov 7, 2022

In that line of thinking, modding, may just be that "Dumbo feather" that you need to make it fly.
Ok.
All the bitching around the value add of that CF part or €1,5k rearset and if today's skill level deserves... if that's what it takes.
That's what it takes. It's not something you can argue about.
Just go ....... ride it. hahaa

Somefun · Nov 7, 2022

Vbreeze said:
In that line of thinking, modding, may just be that "Dumbo feather" that you need to make it fly.
Ok.
All the bitching around the value add of that CF part or €1,5k rearset and if today's skill level deserves... if that's what it takes.
That's what it takes. It's not something you can argue about.
Just go ....... ride it. hahaa

Amen! Best words I've heard! JUST GO RIDING!!!!! I'm glad I rode to work today! its a blessing to ride in November in CT and its 75 out!

DV4 · Nov 7, 2022

Great comments lads, we all know this on some level that no amount of mods can make up for seat time. Bikes used to have vinyl tires, glass brakes and rubber frames, but these modern bikes are soooooo good and anyone here with a Panigale from any era is totally spoilt.

Jolly Roger V4 · Nov 7, 2022

Man, Ducati latte???? I'm jealous as hell.

spooky · Nov 8, 2022

Jrsq270 said:
I have to apologize. Dealer just got back to me. The bike with the number 2223 on the clamps was a BAYLISS V2. It is parked in the showroom right next to the V4 SP2
Apologize again.

I did think it sounded more like a Bayliss number. Thanks for confirming.

SuperDomestique · Nov 8, 2022

spooky said:
I did think it sounded more like a Bayliss number. Thanks for confirming.

Surprising that they sold 2000+ of those. Bayliss is $3500 more than base. At 40% margin that’s close to $3M profit!

Steven31371 · Nov 8, 2022

SuperDomestique said:
Surprising that they sold 2000+ of those. Bayliss is $3500 more than base. At 40% margin that’s close to $3M profit!

Guys are tracking them too, there are two of them that show up often at our local track days

spooky · Nov 8, 2022

SuperDomestique said:
Surprising that they sold 2000+ of those. Bayliss is $3500 more than base. At 40% margin that’s close to $3M profit!

In the absence of a V2S or some other higher-spec version I think the Bayliss is nice and I’m not surprised it’s proven to be popular. I saw one for the first time recently and it looks great with the Ohlins and the livery. If it had been in the showroom instead of the SP2 then I might have gone for the Bayliss and saved some money. It’s certainly more than enough for the road and no doubt a lot of fun on track.

spooky · Nov 8, 2022

Steven31371 said:
Guys are tracking them too, there are two of them that show up often at our local track days

I’d track it if I had one - it’s not like it’s a limited edition.

andyb · Nov 9, 2022

Just buy a 1199/959 hybrid with a non factual paint job….

Atm this lines up with all the other parts bin ‘specials’ where Ducati make money not motorbikes! Brilliant concept .. old tech, a few shiny bits, pull on the heart strings of the memory of a Ducati great….
Good job they didn’t do it with the v4…oh hang on..

Jrsq270 · Nov 12, 2022

Just looked at the Ducati site. The dual high exit exhaust is now 8K!

Inflation wow!
At $6 a latte that's 1333 latte's.

BP PanigaleV4S · Nov 12, 2022

The under belly system is now $6,000. Yikes.

Alf · Nov 12, 2022

Jrsq270 said:
The dual high exit exhaust is now 8K!

So damn ridiculous. Adding the install gets you north of $9k. I actually don't really like this new design--I prefer the older style, under the belly system, from an aesthetic point of view. That system isn't even available on the '23 V4 R. I may be in the minority here, but I'm glad I don't find the stock system terribly offensive to look at.

BP PanigaleV4S · Nov 12, 2022

Alf said:
That system isn't even available on the '23 V4 R.

Maybe not in the dealer parts catalog, but big boy rules being what they are, you can put on any exhaust you want. In that case, you'd have to sort out a tune, but the Ducati Akra tune has had the reputation for not being the best thing ever.

The EU4 bikes had a hideous under tail plastic shielded exhaust loop. The EU5 bikes improved on this as the size and shape is more like the V4R OEM system. It looks a lot better. I too think the OEM systems isn't that hard on the eyes.

Somefun · Nov 13, 2022

It’s nuts that much cash but for me I know I can’t help myself and will have to add the full AKR before she even starts for the first time.

Jrsq270 · Nov 13, 2022

Somefun said:
It’s nuts that much cash but for me I know I can’t help myself and will have to add the full AKR before she even starts for the first time.

Super tempting for me as well!! But I'm probably going to ride it with the stock exhaust until the warranty ends. By then the tunes available and exhaust options will all have been put on bikes in circulation and any quirks worked out.
The big temptation for me here is keeping the factory warranty with this system and factory tune.
I'm looking to do small things first. Futurismoto block offs & tail tidy. Clutch cover (love the dry clutch sound). Etc.

On a side note. I opened the MyDucati app on my I phone and my V4R "ordered" is there! Small steps! LOL

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